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To: philv who wrote (52581)	7/21/2009 12:14:40 PM
From: Sdgla	3 Recommendations Respond to of 217944

youtube.com some medieval punishment is in order.

To: philv who wrote (52581)	7/21/2009 1:54:45 PM
From: Chas.	Respond to of 217944

The flaw in your thinking is that no one is going to hang for anything, ever..... One of the constants guaranteed any Government position is "Absence of Accountability" there is none implied, none given, certainly none taken... America, Life is Good and it is incumbent upon the citizenry to "pay attention" and react accordingly....eh jmho

To: philv who wrote (52581)	7/21/2009 2:49:59 PM
From: Maurice Winn	2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 217944

Good idea Phil: <someone should hang, soon. > I'm thinking of stringing up the socialists responsible for the mess. But who to put in the tumbrel? The politicians after all are just the employees of the electorate. To clean up the body politic I need to start at the beginning of the chain of causality, which is the voters who put them in charge. As I wander back upstream, looking at the links in the chain, I end up at.... well, what a surprise... you! Please submit your actual name and address to the Committee for the Restoration of Purity in Philosophical Foundations and Virtuous Victorian Values VVV. Failure to submit a true name and address is grounds for flaying, thumbscrew, rack and wheel, followed by drawing and quartering. If found guilty of harming purity of VVV, the punishment is merely la guillotine or le noose, at your choice. As I ponder the philosophical foundations which led to the problem, I arrive directly at your door = the idea of socialism and Big Brother creation of state serf chattels, with wall to wall regulation and kleptocratic redistribution to hordes of government spivs. As I delve a little deeper I find you fallen in temptation to sundry 7 Temptations, aka 7 Deadly Sins, aka The Capital Vices. en.wikipedia.org Come in Envy, your time is up. Wrath, time's up. Now now Pride, you have been too busy in Phil's head. Sloth, you have stopped Phil going to the slight trouble of reading what Alan Greenspan actually said. Heck, a cursory check for Lust and Gluttony might show a full house. Just how much do you weigh Phil? I'm curious about Gluttony. And are you still married to your first love? Look, why don't you just Twitter your GPS location to the tumbrel HQ and they'll send somebody around for you and you can explain things to the Committee. If you are on our side, you have nothing to worry about. Heck, we have gainful employment to keep a lot of people busy. The problem is not the few who got hold of the US$ from citizens and taxpayers, but those who put them there. Did you vote for Bush or Obama? Either way, guilty as charged. We need a thorough cleansing. <Sir Alan has at least mumbled some remorse and admitted his errors, for which I give him credit. > It was a singular so-called error, being the idea that people would want to not go broke. That management and shareholders of companies would try to protect their investments and livelihoods by making reasonable investment decisions. He didn't imagine so many suicidal managements all doing the same. Since people have free will, it is the underpinning assumption which we have to make = people prefer to be alive than to not exist. To be or not to be? That is the question. Government can pass laws that suicide is illegal, but really, it's a bit of a silly law and can only be enforced against those who did not commit suicide, but tried, and those who assist them. There isn't really anything he could do about it. There's no regulation which will prevent people making dud investments, unless investment is made illegal and we all go back to the stone age. You could require that all investments have to be approved by a government committee but we would be looking very like the USSR and look how that ended. If you think the current woes are bad, take a look at what happened in socialist and communist countries. Guilty as charged, now get on Twitter and we'll see you shortly. Bring your family - they are likely to have similar philosophies. Thanks for the suggestion of a good hanging, soon: < he ought not to hang alone, I can agree with, but someone should hang, soon. > Down with the Cardinal Vices. Hooray for VVV. Mqurice

To: philv who wrote (52581)	7/21/2009 3:29:22 PM
From: Maurice Winn	2 Recommendations Respond to of 217944

Since I have been plotting the demise of US$ [and other fiats] for decades, [ever since I became aware of the false nature of the money I had grown up with and the swindling intrinsic to it] you are right that my admiration for those running the US$ is limited: <That's a good one Maurice. I'm sure your tongue was firmly planted in your cheek when you wrote that > Green$pan didn't even do a particularly good job and you can search "Happy Meal" in SI to see me moaning about low interest rates and how they should have been zooming upwards a year or three before Greenspan and Big Ben finally got around to doing it, too late. But seriously, you are completely wrong that what he did or didn't do was a hanging offence. He did well, if not "a heckuva job". Seriously, the problem is in the philosophical foundations of the citizenry who shove people into power who of course do what they say they'll do. As Obama says, elections have consequences. Ron Paul was seeking support. His ideas and philosophical foundations are very different from Obama's and McCains but he got negligible support. The greedy wastrel citizenry are the people to blame. We only need a weighing device to prove at least one of the 7 Cardinal Vices and where there's one, there's normally more because birds of a feather flock together. Perhaps some study of the Cardinal Vices would be in order. They are perhaps considered virtues these days in popular culture and therein lies the problem. Mqurice