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To: RichL who wrote (5187)	10/29/1997 1:50:00 AM
From: Yiren Huang	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 64865

It may not be a bad thing if Java is owned by some independent standard comitte. This way other companies will be able to endorsed with no doubt that it is an open standard. And it will only help SUNW if Java is getting popular and standardized on all platforms since SUNW can sell more products based on Java. Of course, SUNW may need to get some returns for the investment in Java since SUNW has spent the most efforts in this area for Java to become a standard. This probably can come from the license fees that it gets from all the licensees. Since SUNW's revenue is not based on Java at all, it may not be that worse even Java is not voted. I view Java is different than windows since windows run mostly on PCs while Java needs to run on all platforms even on Windows. This is jsut IMO. Long on SUNW.

To: RichL who wrote (5187)	10/29/1997 7:20:00 AM
From: CMS27	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 64865

RichL, Sun did NOT lose sole ownership of Java. They lost a vote to be "designated as the submitter of standards for Java to the International Standards Organization (ISO)". Had they been successful, Java would have become an international standard, and Sun would be the sole party setting the standard. Without the ISO we are back to the normal system of Sun owning Java and liscencees having to abide by the Sun licesning agreement, which is still just about the same deal, but being sanctioned by the ISO would have carried a lot more legal clout. Best, Scott

To: RichL who wrote (5187)	10/29/1997 8:12:00 AM
From: micromike	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 64865

U.S. rejects Java standard news.com The U.S. vote is so far the only "no" vote among 27 countries that make up the Joint Technical Committee (JTC-1) of the International Organization for Standardization (ISO). Six countries--Australia, France, Hungary, Denmark, Sweden, and the United Kingdom--have already given Sun a thumbs-up, with the other 20 still to decide by November 14. --- Sure looks suspicious to me. US is the only one so far to say NO.They need 2/3's to pass. Mike

To: RichL who wrote (5187)	10/29/1997 9:04:00 AM
From: Bald Eagle	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 64865

<<We are in deep S### tomorrow! Sunw just lost the US's vote for sunw to maintain sole ownership of JAVA license. We're dead. .... big drop in am as msft people laugh>> Calm down. I think you are over reacting big time. First of all, Java is not SUNW's main source of income by any means. Secondly, the vote is only against SUNW having the rights to dictate standards. Thirdly, I expect SUNW to rise again above 50 in the not too distant future. SUNW is a world class company with world class products.

To: RichL who wrote (5187)	10/29/1997 9:15:00 AM
From: Homer	Respond to of 64865

The way I read it they are already 20% of the votes they need (6 of 27). This is just 1. CUPERTINO, Calif.--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Oct. 28, 1997-- Representatives of ISO's U.S. Technical Advisory Group (U.S. TAG) voted today against Sun Microsystems Inc.'s application to become a ''Publicly Available Specification Submitter'' to submit Java(TM)platform technologies to become international standards. To date, Australia, Denmark, France, Hungary, Sweden, and the United Kingdom have approved Sun's application under rules established by the International Organization for Standards (ISO). The deadline for all 27 national regulatory bodies voting in the ISO process is Nov. 14. According to ISO, if a consensus of the organizations approves Sun's application, Sun will become a Submitter of Publicly Available Specifications (PAS) and could submit Java platform specifications for review as an international standard. Other countries which will vote on Sun's application in the next two weeks are: Australia, Austria, Belgium, Brazil, Canada, Czech Republic, Finland, Germany, India, Ireland, Italy, Japan, Korea, The Netherlands, New Zealand, Norway, Romania, Russia, Slovenia, and Switzerland. Last spring, in a preliminary evaluation of Sun's application, the U.S. TAG cast a vote of ''no, with comments,'' to request further information from Sun. At ISO's invitation, Sun filed its request to be a PAS Submitter in March. ISO national member bodies had until July 15 to evaluate Sun's application and register initial comments. Sun answered those comments in writing by a Sept. 24 deadline set by ISO. National member bodies now must cast their final ballots on Sun's application by Nov. 14.