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To: koan who wrote (59033)7/21/2009 9:10:55 PM
From: Broken_Clock  Respond to of 149317
 
You better include Obama and his hirelings as well.

"this is to be a permanent, institutionalized detention scheme with the power vested in the President going forward to imprison people with no charges. "

salon.com

Glenn Greenwald
TUESDAY JULY 21, 2009 06:22 EDT
First steps taken to implement preventive detention, military commissions
(updated below - Update II)
A task force appointed by President Obama to issue recommendations on how to close Guantanamo announced yesterday it will miss its deadline and instead needs a six-month extension, potentially jeopardizing Obama's promise to close Guantanamo within a year. The announcement was made in a briefing given by four leading Obama officials, where the condition of the briefing was that none of the officials could be named (why not?) and all media outlets agreed to this condition (why?).
Though the Task Force's final recommendations were delayed, it did release an interim report (.pdf) which -- true to Obama's prior pledges -- envisions an optional, three-tiered "system of justice" for imprisoning accused Terrorists, to be determined by the Obama administration in each case: (1) real trials in real courts for some; (2) military commissions for others; and (3) indefinite detention with no charges for the rest. This memo is the first step towards institutionalizing both a new scheme of preventive detention and Obama's version of military commissions.
From this interim report, it's more apparent than ever that the central excuse made by Obama defenders to justify preventive detention and military commissions -- there are dangerous Terrorists who cannot be released but also cannot be tried because Bush obtained the evidence against them via torture -- is an absolute myth. That's clear for multiple reasons:

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To: koan who wrote (59033)7/22/2009 1:32:23 PM
From: one_less  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 149317
 
"Colen Powell, Condoleeza Rice, Clarence Thomas, and most recently Harry Alford for whom you chose silence."

>>>I have no respect for those three who betrayed their people. >>>

There is no virtual difference between that and designated bathrooms for black people. If they go into the 'white establishment' (according to you) they deserve to be stoned, as we've seen with Saint Condoleeza and the others. Absolutely no difference.

BTW, its as if you are stuck in a partisan script. I can figure out for my self what the Dem comment would be on any given topic, do you ever think on your own? That is what a genuine liberal philosopher does. Why not give it a shot.