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To: pheilman_ who wrote (212481)	7/25/2009 2:22:21 PM
From: pheilman_	Respond to of 306849

Or to make it closely relevant: who knew? Madoff claims; when he created the largest private Ponzi scheme ever, only he knew the reality. Everyone else, the programmers, his feed investors, the MFing SEC, the auditors, his sons, and most certainly his wife, had no idea what was really behind those incredibly good returns. They all went along cause the money was rolling in. And only the Boston investigator was screaming 2+2=4. And no-one listened. So who knew it was fraud and who thought they were in a legitimate investment? Greenspan claims it is impossible to see bubbles, while he blew the housing bubble with excessively cheap money, after blowing the internet bubble with excessively cheap money and loose margin requirements. Only this board knew 2+2=4, and no-one listened. The housing prices were rising faster than static wages, and that was unsustainable. Meanwhile the investors were desperate for yield and hoovering up all the Moody's blessed blends of crap loans. Creating more demand for product. And ever more speculative value got added to the house values. And the realtors, the mortgage brokers, the bankers, the ratings agencies, the regulators, the Fed, and the media all thought and stated that 2+2=5. Cause the money was rolling in. Why work, just flip houses. 50k every 2 months. Can't beat that with the sweat off your brow and everyone was there to help. And take their little piece. Or big, in the case of the IBs. Again, who knew it was fraud and who thought it was a legitimate investment? Did anyone know it was fraud? I mean the Orange County mortgage broker falsifying applications seems pretty clearcut, but, Moody's rating AAA for pay, did they know? The realtor helping move the merchandise in Phoenix? Or Stockton? So, Madoff scheme returning 12% a year like clockwork was understood by the investigator and even the regulators didn't listen. The housing scheme with 15% appreciation per year, was understood here and certainly no-one listened when we warned about buying houses that were overpriced. No man will hear what threatens his livelihood. More similarities, we knew both schemes were sketchy but couldn't state the exact nature of the fraud until after the innards were exposed.

To: pheilman_ who wrote (212481)	7/25/2009 5:26:14 PM
From: LTK007	Respond to of 306849

Zimbrado experiment put an !exclamation point! to the IMPORTANCE of Milgram's experiment . Milgram's experiment was MOCKED beforehand as it was believed at most 1-2% would fail. (insert: as far as i know Milgram's experiment was declared NOT permissable to replicate--that it was damned as UNETHICAL) Milgrams result proved many many many more humans are capable of evil than we ever thought. This could have been done not as reality,is obvious, but he did succed to deceive the volunters, regardless of your insinuation, the participants did not realize it was real. Zimbrado's Stanford Prison experiment has VALIDATED Milgram to the MAXIMUM. To call Milgram experiment a PUSSY experiment is so weird,i can't comprehend you writing it. It means you never realized the Dangerous Import on Milgram's experiment--which i realized IMMEDIATELY, when i read the earliest reports of itand have held it as a very SERIOUS mater for decades. For you it is for Psycho Babble quibbling about PUSSY and Blood-Guts,on a deadly serious matter---whew! The idea it was "A PUSSY" experiment is folly. So you needed the horror of Zimbrado experiment to satisfy you, well i could have told Zimbrado ahead of time the result, that STUNNED Zimbrado would be what would most likely actually happenas Milgram showed that the Zimbrado Experiment was entering DANGER of releasing The Beast. Zimbrado stopped the experiment having shaken at what unfolded, he realized murdering the "prisoners" was imminent. Mind you he put them on orders to hurt no one And the GUARDS were ALL affluent middle class highly intelligent Stanford Students , the presumed "the better than the rest, the best and brightest of America" like the whole elitist cult of Harvard/Stanford/Yale, yada yada. This "creme de la creme" were proven to be a bunch of latent PSYCHOPATHS. ************************************************************ Regards WS/The FinancialThugs. i have ruthlessly ATTACKED all the "best and brightest" of our elite financial scum that have that have invaded D.C.and rule WS,and rule U.S.,at this time. Those that think one's inner morality as anything to do with IQ do NOT know twit. So you trying to bring in the idea i am oblivious to that matter just shows like 99% on SI YOU DON'T KNOW ME AT ALL Fuck i was calling WS mafia scum in 2007. i see i now have 75 ignores ,plus 7 in few days,,this thread will prove a GOLDMINE of getting people i would NEVER want to know anyway**, rooted out. Your calling the Milgram Experiment "PUSSY" is all i will ever need to know about you. Max