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To: NAG1 who wrote (116564)	7/26/2009 10:34:46 AM
From: JohnM	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 542788

If you state the case the way you did, it is absurd. If you read the police report and if it actually did take place that way, Gates acted absurdly and deserved what he got and was lucky the charges were dropped. Neal, neither of us know what happened nor are we likely to ever know. The police report was written after the fact and subject to possible backward writing of the incident. I suspect it wouldn't be the first time such happened. And Gates also has an interest in a pursuing a narrative that has him acting calmly. My own judgment call is not based on which is true. But rather, no matter how badly each behaved--Gates and Crowly--none of that rose, in any recounting, to the level of arrestable behavior. So, if you wish, accept the narrative that puts Gates in the worst light, he is still a middle aged black man in his own home, and all accounts say Crowley was satisfied that was the case, and walking with a cane. I don't see an arrestable bit in that narrative.

To: NAG1 who wrote (116564)	7/27/2009 7:16:54 PM
From: Mary Cluney	Respond to of 542788

<<<If you read the police report and if it actually did take place that way, Gates acted absurdly and deserved what he got and was lucky the charges were dropped.>>> In the police report (since it is in pdf format, I will have to transcribe)the police officer wrote: "She (the woman who called 911) went on to tell me that she observed what appeared to be two black males with backpacks on the porchof XX Ware Street" and other statements too long to transcribe raising suspicions). The woman who reported the incident has now spoken through her lawyer. The police transcript of her 911 call backs up her assertion that she never mentioned that the men were black or mentioned anything about backpacks. In fact she was heard to have said on tape she saw two suitcases and she said that perhaps they belonged to the people who were trying to get into the house.