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To: bentway who wrote (499573)	7/29/2009 4:51:45 PM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1578545

I'm fairly certain that Obama, president of the US, could get any birth document from Hawaii he wanted, at any time. But, WHY? This clown show isn't good for the (R)'s, the saner of whom desperately want these tin-foil-hat birthers to STFU. It just keeps them in the public mind as the clown party of the unhinged wingnut. Plus, some of the dumber (R) pols actually pander to these idiots and try to get in front of the parade of clowns. Look at the approval ratings for the (R) party and you'll KNOW why Obama isn't ending this.. You're probably right. It makes good sense. And its working......people are getting very tired and angry with these nut cases.

To: bentway who wrote (499573)	7/29/2009 4:57:10 PM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1578545

I understand that a number of wingers are unstable but are there so many in a district that they can elect unstable leaders? BIRTHER MADNESS CONTINUES.... It never ends. ... Rep. Bill Posey's (R-FL) "birther bill" has gained yet another cosponsor. Yesterday, Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TX) became the latest Republican congressman to declare support for the bill. Notably, Rep. Gohmert hasn't issued a press release announcing his sponsorship, so it seems he doesn't want to advertise his move toward the fringe. Whether he advertises it or not, Gohmert is mad as a hatter. Posey's ridiculous Birther Bill obviously isn't going anywhere, but it is interesting to see just how many Republicans are deranged enough to sign on as co-sponsors. When Posey unveiled the bill in March, he stood alone, literally and figuratively. For two months, no one in the House would sign onto his measure, which made the Republican caucus seem relatively responsible -- Posey was just a fringe nut, who lacked support from his own colleagues. But note the trend since. In May, the Birther Bill picked up one co-sponsor. In June, it received five more. So far in July, four more climbed on the train to Crazytown. This doesn't constitute "momentum" in any practical sense, but it suggests more and more House GOP lawmakers are comfortable embracing right-wing nonsense. And it goes beyond just this one silly piece of legislation. Rep. Roy Blunt (R) of Missouri, a former House Republican leader and current candidate for the U.S. Senate, said this week, on camera, "What I don't know is why the president can't produce a birth certificate. I don't know anybody else that can't produce one. And I think that that's a legitimate question -- no health records, no birth certificate." In perhaps the most amusing Birther-related story of the day, one Republican consultant argued in CQ today that the entire right-wing conspiracy theory is getting attention because the media may be trying to make conservatives look foolish. Someone ought to tell Limbaugh and Dobbs, because if this theory's true, the right is helping the "liberal media" in strange ways.

To: bentway who wrote (499573)	7/29/2009 4:59:46 PM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1578545

More infighting among the Rs? VITTER SHOULD AVOID TALK ABOUT 'VALUES'.... Sen. George Voinovich (R) of Ohio raised a few eyebrows this week when he said the Republican Party is "being taken over by Southerners," which has caused the GOP's decline. "We got too many Jim DeMints and Tom Coburns," Voinovich said, referring to two of the most right-wing members of his party. Sen. David Vitter (R) of Louisiana wasn't specifically referenced by Voinovich, but felt compelled to respond anyway. "I'm on the side of conservatives getting back to core conservative values," Vitter told the Washington Times. "There are a lot of us from the South who hold those values, which I think the party is supposed to be about. We strayed from them in the past few years, and that's why we performed so badly in the national elections." "[Voinovich is...] a moderate, really wishy-washy," he said. Now, describing Voinovich as a "moderate" strikes me as rather silly, as does the misguided argument that Republicans would have won more recent elections nationwide if only they'd been even more right-wing. But it's Vitter's references to "conservative values" and those from the South who embrace "those values" that continues to be a problem. In context, the far-right Louisianan wasn't talking about social and/or family issues, but that doesn't change the fact that every time Vitter mentions the word "values," it elicits the same response: "Aren't you that 'family-values' guy who got caught with prostitutes?" It's no doubt awkward for the Republican senator, but he has to realize there are certain words and phrases he's going to have to avoid. Over the weekend, his aides launched an attack ad against his likely Democratic opponent, blasting him for attending a fundraiser Vitter's team called a "love fest." Bad idea -- "love fest" only helped remind folks about Vitter's sex scandal. Today, Vitter is talking about those who have the audacity to "stray from ... conservative values." Does he not realize this is like setting a ball on a tee, inviting his opponents to take a free swing?