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To: JBTFD who wrote (18486)8/6/2009 11:58:58 AM
From: Little Joe10 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 50042
 
Sounds to me like you are just spouting dem talking points.

lj



To: JBTFD who wrote (18486)8/6/2009 12:50:25 PM
From: dvdw©14 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 50042
 
Your words " You are right, the right has organized and their intention is to hijack any kind of open discussion on health care."

Unless im mistaken, congress admitted they had no
responsibility to read a 1000 page bill....

so its obvious, that they themselves, certainly did not have any input or discussion about what they are now voting on...

please go back to your minders and get a new script.



To: JBTFD who wrote (18486)8/6/2009 2:07:28 PM
From: SliderOnTheBlack24 Recommendations  Read Replies (3) | Respond to of 50042
 
re: ["You are right, the right has organized and their intention
is to hijack any kind of open discussion on health care."]

Mark, you can't possibly believe that?

Obama's poll numbers have collapsed faster than any US President
in history, actually surpassing the collapse of the Jimmy Carter
Presidency, and we all know how that turned out for America.

washingtontimes.com

"Gallup and Rasmussen Reports have him with less than 50 percent
job approval, with majorities disapproving of his handling of
his two signature issues, the economy and health care."

What don't you understand about this?



These Town Halls are mom and pops from Main Street. If you
watch the videos it's mainly people in their 60's who are
going to be directly effected by nationalized health care,
and who are worried.

The liberal media has now switched from open bias, to
becoming an activist arm of the administration, even
encouraging people to turn in blog sites, and individual
emails to the government.

Markus Wolf would be oh so proud!

They tried to do this with the Tea Parties.

Anyone who saw the large media covered Tea Party rallies
in Texas and California, saw as many women, and children
present as men. And they came from every walk of life.

The entire Tea Party movement started with grass roots
Ron Paul supporters. I've been to 4 Tea Parties in the
Midwest, and never saw a single bus of anyone getting
shipped in, or anything other than individual, every day
Americans who are tired of being looted and lied to.

Look at the videos, do these people look like an "Astro Turf"
or, "Dockers" brigade made up of inside the beltway politicos?

Fwiw, the AARP sold out, and has supported the Health Care
plan, but look at how many people over age 55 are in these
crowds. There wasn't a damn bus in the parking lot, these
were individual Main Street, everyday Americans who are
going to be directly affected by the plan.

They're fighting for their rights and control over their own
health, because their elected politicians sold them out.

Do these people...

youtube.com

Look like these people?

msnbc.msn.com

Talk about a leap!

Hell yes, that was a Republican politico raid on the Florida recount.

Right out of the Mayor Daley Chicago Democratic machine
school of vote early, and vote often politics.

But, to compare what we are seeing break out spontaneously
all across America to Jeb Bush and Katherine Harris using
Daley style Chicago politics to steal the 2000 election
is an insult to everyone's intelligence.

Sure, there are organized groups on both sides. How about
ACORN and the numerous George Soros groups?

You people are way, way too emotionally invested in this.

Are you really willing to suspend all rational thinking,
all semblance of truth, and sell out your children's future
and your own health, just to win?

When Rachel Maddow makes insane comparisons like this, it
destroys her future credibility on important issues. I
actually kind of like Maddow. She showed me some integrity
when she broke bad on Obama selling out America, and
adopting Bush's anti-privacy, and pro-torture policies.

But with this comparison, she's coming off as ridiculous as
did Janeane Garofalo with her "tea bagging racists" comment.

If you want an emotional outlet, the evidence is now out on
literal War Crimes being committed, including Cheney's
Hit Teams, and sodomizing little boys in front of their
mothers in Iraq during interrogations. Pictures, and
testimony exist. Set up another Nuremberg Trial for
Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and anyone else you deem guilty,
and tell me where to sent a contribution check.

Why hasn't Obama went after the War Criminals like he promised?

Why hasn't he went after NAFTA like he promised?

Why is he expanding the War, instead of bringing the troops
home like he promised?

Why did he have Geithner and Summers float trial balloons
on a coming middle class tax hike, when he promised he
wouldn't raise ANY taxes on the middle class?

...I guess Cap & Trade taxes aren't taxes either?

Why is he bum rushing bill, after bill through Congress, after
he promised he would end that, and post every bill in it's
entirety online, in public, for at least five days before
any vote?

Why did he load his administration with lobbyists, when he
promised otherwise?

Why did he allow all those earmarks when he promised he wouldn't?

youtube.com

Main Street America is mad as hell and they are NOT going
to take it any more. And in case you haven't noticed, they're
shouting down Republican and Democratic incumbents alike. And
there's a hell of a lot off pissed of Democrats too.

-- Home values are still collapsing.

-- Job losses are still rising.

-- The markets are still down -40%

-- Pension plans are going broke and 1/3rd of employers have
stopped matching 401K contributions.

-- State and local governments are going bankrupt.

-- And stimulus money went to bigger government, and pork
not jobs. $1,000 given to the bankers for every $1 spent
on actual stimulus so far. 1,000:1 And you wonder why people
are pissed?

Politicians from BOTH parties continue to look right into the
teleprompter and tell us lie, after lie, after lie, right to
our faces. And you wonder why they're being shouted down?

Only a complete and total fool, would deny that this is a
massive grassroots uprising.

SOTB

PS: I have a friend who's a history buff and a die hard,
life long Democrat. He's not happy with Obama and is worried
about what's unfolding.

About a week ago he jokingly told me he's going to take his
Obama bumper sticker off his car and quit defending Obama at
work... because after reading a book about WW II, he found
out the French Resistance didn't go after the Nazi's first,
they went after the Nazi sympathizers who sold out their
country.

I thought he was joking. Funny thing, he came over to my house
last evening and the bumper sticker was gone.

Food for thought.