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To: Mannie who wrote (18568)	8/9/2009 5:01:31 PM
From: dvdw©	3 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 50227

Yo Mannie; thanks for the reply. Your thoughtful answer includes the generalized arguments we as non voters hear everyday. This mindset baffles me. If you choose not to participate, you choose not to participate.....you have willingly given up your voice. Answer: I am vocalizing here for you, a voter to see. So, i have not given up my right to vocalize, nor have I endorsed the record of those, you have voted for. let me posit to you, that you and your bretheren in voting, have given authority to your representatives to act on your behalf. Now as one who did not provide the same endorsement, i ask you to take responsibility for the damages of your vote. You complain that office holders get elected by such a small number of the citizens, then you extol not participating in the election? We elect people to serve us, if you don't want to participate in the system, fine, that is your choice, but why post about your grievances? Answer, your logics are simple. Your absolving your self of the responsibility to your countrymen to ensure your elected officials do the least amount of harm to everyone, including the non voting majority. that they should not bend the constitution or make law to facilitate oligarchy. Perhaps your in the voting crowd, because you are a minority that elects demopublican hegemony to enjoy the benefits of some largesse attained by law making, favors, etc.... do you take the posture because you somehow believe your an elite, and deserving of such largesse, or do you genuinely believe that the consequences of your politicians actions on your behalf are good for me too? Because frankly the voters never ask me if i agree with the largesse or not, they just assume that thier minority win, gives them the right by fiat of ballot box to take what they can while the gettings good. Really, seriously, who should care if all that nonvoters wish to do is snipe and ankle bite after the cows are already out of the barn? How can nonparticipation help our system improve? the parties are monolithic, the checks and balances of our inheritance have been homogenized right out of the process. Gerrymandering and political party structures eliminate serious interference with all party matters, reducing outcomes to Bought and Paid for politics of the few for the few. If you can't be bothered to give your input into our democratic system, I really think you should hold your tongue on such issues. Answer: Bothered is hardly appropriate, all of us suffer through every campaign to some level of equality, meaning we all have to listen to the ads, read the news, watch the debates, to know whether or not we should vote or not...it just so happens that, by the degree of exposure you and I have likely had, my conclusion is different. I dont believe the politicians you've elected are trustworthy nor in most ways good for my neighbors or myself. I can't imagine not voting, let alone bitching about the election after not voting. Answer I wish you would imagine the effects of your not voting, because maybe then you would not. Then you might see that your decision, while good for you, might no be so good for the neighbors who surround you, and you might then insist your party get some one with better politics. You do know the data of voters versus non voters, I've shown you and it is minority rule with no checks or balances. Again I'd like to see the voters stand up and take the burden of thier voting on thier backs and get it off the rest of us...your choices, you should live with them. stop assuming your yes vote is worth more than my NO vote.

To: Mannie who wrote (18568)	8/9/2009 6:41:09 PM
From: Joe Btfsplk	6 Recommendations Respond to of 50227

I can't imagine not voting I'm with dvdw©, regard voting as a charade. Most participants are inspired by hysteric quasi-religious delusions rather than informed analysis. Their numbers are overwhelming. It's not been long since efforts in total control failed. Careful study indicts statist interferences with rational economic calculations through market action. Now a plurality of Americans want to repeat tried and tainted methods with medical delivery. Legitimate issues regarding excessive costs are utterly ignored. It's almost like the twentieth century never happened.

To: Mannie who wrote (18568)	8/10/2009 7:56:13 PM
From: Proud Deplorable	5 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 50227

Sorry Mannie, we don't have a REAL voice. Voting is a total waste of time and an exercise that the government wants the people to participate in so they can perpetuate the illusion of free speech and participation. Remember this.....If voting brought about any real change it would be illegal. Anti-government people can express their opinions if they want and the old saw that if you don't vote then you can't complain is propaganda as well, nonsense. In my view dumbocrats and repugnicans are pretty much the same. The ONLY person in the USA that had a remote chance and that I would consider voting for is Ron Paul who I listen regularly to on Alex Jone's Prison Planet / infowars.com “Alex Jones, The most trusted name in American Journalism.” PS..... The Obama Joker $1000 Video Contest infowars.com