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To: Horgad who wrote (104386)8/10/2009 10:02:58 AM
From: jrzy  Read Replies (2) | Respond to of 110194
 
>> Governments grow over time and individual rights shrink over time<<

You seem to ignore the advancement from serfdom and abolition of slavery in most of the world, extension of voting rights to women and blacks, and growth of the middle class.



To: Horgad who wrote (104386)8/10/2009 5:25:00 PM
From: Gib Bogle  Respond to of 110194
 
It's called civilization. Savages deep in the Amazon have no leaders, no government, no laws. They are free! Of course, they don't live to enjoy it for very long.