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To: RMF who wrote (36275)	8/11/2009 10:00:54 AM
From: longnshort	Respond to of 71588

do other countries have large minority populations ? do we have more car deaths, military deaths ? Do other countries count childbirth deaths the same ? are we inventing more drugs and mmedical tech. than other countries ? do we spend more on research ?

To: RMF who wrote (36275)	8/11/2009 9:10:37 PM
From: TimF	1 Recommendation Respond to of 71588

Peter, how does the U.S. RANK on healthcare issues? Depends on how the rankings are done, which to an extent depends on who is doing the rankings. When its WHO (the World Health Organization) that's doing the rankings there are a lot of problems with the rankings. I may have posted about them here. I've posted about them on the Formerly AMD thread and a lot on this thread Subject 55439

To: RMF who wrote (36275)	8/15/2009 9:09:01 AM
From: Peter Dierks	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 71588

Peter, how does the U.S. RANK on healthcare issues? Are we living longer than other nations? Are we doing a lot better in childbirth than other nations? Methodology can impact results to a very great extent. For instance if you were to ask what percentage of conceptions lead to live births we might not rank to high. If you were to ask what percentage of conceived children not murdered prior to birth we might be one of the highest ranked nations. The bottom line is that we have world leaders getting their healthcare in the US when their own system fails. For example, do you remember Clinton's girlfriend, billionaire Belinda Stronach, came to the US for cancer treatment? After ObamaCare destroys the US medical miracle where are the world's elite going to get their care? What will the loss of their expenditures do for the US economy? The bottom line is would you rather have access to US healthcare or a random other country's healthcare? I would choose American doctors over the rest of the world's. This is where many people discuss the issue of whether socialized medicine is necessary: Subject 55439