To: bentway who wrote (503711 ) 8/11/2009 7:52:11 PM From: d[-_-]b Respond to of 1575859 Yes - they are and I have a large stash of them for .308. :-) Trouble is they are rarely if ever used in crime as they are unneeded. So it's a false issue used to fan flames and give the libs a "do something" feeling of accomplishment. No law officier has been killed by one either - even the BATF said existing laws are working fine. In April 1997, the often-mischaracterized issue of "armor piercing ammunition" finally was laid to rest by research conducted by the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms (BATF). The study was done following Clinton-Gore Administration calls for legislation that would have outlawed practically all rifle ammunition used by hunters and a wide variety of handgun ammunition traditionally used for sport and self-defense. ** BATF`s study concluded that: "(E)xisting laws are working, no additional legislation regarding such laws is necessary." ** The "existing laws" were adopted in 1986 and prohibit the manufacture and importation, for private use, of handgun bullets made of special, hard metals and (in a 1994 amendment) specially-jacketed lead bullets. These bullets were invented for use by law enforcement and military personnel. NRA helped draft the 1986 provisions and didn`t object to the 1994 amendment. (;18 U.S.C. 922(a)(7) and (8), and (b)(5), and 921(a)(17)(B) and (C)) ** Legislation similar to that backed by the Clinton-Gore Administration was first proposed in the 1980s and was opposed by both the Departments of Justice and Treasury, and rejected by Congress. ** Use of the sensational term, "cop killer bullet," is dishonest and misleading. There has never been any bullet invented for the purpose of killing police officers. And, as the BATF reported to Congress in 1997, no law enforcement officer has ever been killed or even injured because an armor piercing bullet penetrated a bullet-resistant vest. ** Gun control advocates` groundless claims mislead the public and the resultant publicity endanger police officers. BATF reported to Congress on the need to "avoid any experimentation with police officer lives that could conceivably lead to numerous additional officer fatalities."