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To: kikogrey who wrote (215500)	8/13/2009 4:18:49 AM
From: Skeeter Bug	Respond to of 306849

kiko, absolutely. genetics play a huge role. the problem is that one can't change their genetic code. one can only use diet to change the expression of their genes and maximize the opportunity for overall wellness. or visit the drug dealer - but that yields some nasty side effects. i would never argue that an average nba guard on the zone diet would out perform michael jordan in his prime. jordan's genetic advantage was just too great. however, the real question is whether the zone diet could make michael jordan even better - especially as he aged and his hormonal responses weren't nearly as forgiving. i'm convinced it would and put jenny thompson (won swimming medals in her mid 30s, 2nd in medals only to michael phelps), dara torres (42 year old silver medal winner, faster at 42 than at any other time), valentina vazelli (best fencer in the world, only human to win 3 consecutive fencing golds, her latest at 38 years old) and dean karnazes (ultra endurance athlete in his mid 40s) as examples. oh, and the oldest member of the us olympic swim team since 1992 (each one applied zone technology to optimize their performance, including one lady who leveraged the zone diet and a backyard pool into a trip to the olympics). while nobody ever confused me with anything remotely athletically gifted, i should be faster, stronger and have better endurance in my mid 40s (with nerve ulnar nerve damage) than when i ran cross country in high school and lifted weights in college. i have dramatically more energy and feel much better in my 40s than at any other time in my life. if i eat wrong, i get the resulting "insulin hangover" and feel like utter crap, so it somewhat self re-enforcing. i'm already leaner than at any point in my adult life (and i purposefully eat a little extra to try and maximize muscle gain). now that i'm adding in biking to my routine, though, i may end even more lean (7-8% body fat, currently about 9%-10%). i'm already jonesing to go attack a fairly long 17% grade hill that i barely made up last week on my mountain bike. my routine is to keep going higher up the hill in 2nd gear until i can make it all the way up in 2nd gear. nicole sure likes what the zone diet did for her performance... journal.crossfit.com also of note is that i can do a german volume training routine without a problem - but it sidelined a guy almost 15 years my junior for over a week - and he can can bench 60 lbs more than i can. he was too sore to lift. the difference is diet. zoners don't produce nearly as much lactic acid that leads to that nasty muscle soreness.

To: kikogrey who wrote (215500)	8/13/2009 1:08:53 PM
From: Peter V	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 306849

genetics play a large part in longevity. Probably more so than diet or exercise, although I'm sure these help. Speaking of pessimism, we got my Mom a button for her 70th birthday that read: "Those who bitch the most live the longest!" Not sure if it's true, but it sure fits some people. But she refuses to eat any TJ's food? I'm not sure I could survive without TJ's! I'm going on vacation and had to map out all the TJ's along the way, just in case! I guess that makes me a junkie. Anybody paying attention to the market today?