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Politics : President Barack Obama -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (60835)	8/15/2009 10:15:36 PM
From: Mac Con Ulaidh	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 149317

actually they don't. they believe in Jesus. There is a wonderful book I read... got on a shelf here somewheres... anyways... he grew up a secular Jew... still really is... but he is a prof and billiant mind. took to learning about how the various faiths view the Jewish God (since he is 'their' god). he found himself quite confused by the 'christians' who really don't seem to talk to Jehovah (whoever) at all anymore, but just the baby Jesus. I'll find the name of the book if you're interested. he is big time prof person in the field. and very interesting reading on it. cause I get myself quite confused at the 'jesus is god' thing. huh? he is the son (and divinity is questionable). anyways. I decided at 13 that if it was true that if I did not give my soul to Jesus I would burn in hell, then I would burn. I dun like that threat stuff. fak that. and that is how they word it...

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (60835)	8/15/2009 10:17:45 PM
From: ChinuSFO	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 149317

These stupid ignorant guys think Jesus is God and hence anyone who does not believe in Jesus but instead in some other prophet is classified by these folks as a non-believer in God.

To: Wharf Rat who wrote (60835)	8/15/2009 10:20:50 PM
From: ChinuSFO	Respond to of 149317

U.S. fear-mongering is not healthy By MINDELLE JACOBS Last Updated: 14th August 2009, 4:19am The shrill, misinformed opponents of Barack Obama's proposal to reform America's expensive and inequitable health-care system should be in Los Angeles this week. There they'd see thousands of poor, uninsured and under-insured Americans lined up for free medical care provided by volunteers, thanks to an amazing organization called Remote Area Medical (RAM). The Tennessee-based group began more than two decades ago as a mobile relief force to provide health care to people in the world's most inaccessible regions. RAM, for instance, has an air ambulance based in Guyana as well as a cervical cancer team that travels by jeep, plane, ox cart and canoe through the rainforest to treat hundreds of village women. But 60% of the group's expeditions are in the U.S., the richest country in the world. After Hurricane Katrina flooded New Orleans in 2005, RAM medical volunteers treated more than 5,000 people. Presumably, many of those people hadn't seen a doctor in years because they couldn't afford it. And now RAM has set up shop in an arena in Inglewood, an L.A. suburb, to give people free dental, vision and medical care. Patients are getting everything from fillings, root canals and glasses to mammograms, Pap smears and general physicals. Undoubtedly, those receiving free medical care consider it something of a miracle since there are 47 million Americans who have no medical insurance. Contrast that with the raucous and ridiculous rantings of some U.S. politicians and ordinary Americans who've crowded into public forums in recent days decrying the Democrats' attempts to overhaul the U.S. health-care system. "This is about the dismantling of this country," one woman told a Pennsylvania forum on Tuesday, according to the New York Times. "We don't want this country to turn into Russia." "They are talking about killing people," declared another woman. Perhaps she's a fan of former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin who maintains a proposed bill would create "death panels" that would pressure sick elderly people to forego continued treatment. HAWKING 'WORTHLESS' In an even stranger turn, an editorial in the Investor's Business Daily absurdly argued that disabled physicist Stephen Hawking "wouldn't have a chance in the U.K.," suggesting the National Health Service would deem him "worthless." Hawking retorted in a British newspaper that he wouldn't be here without the NHS and the business paper retracted its remarks. But the fear-mongering continues. According to Republican Congressman Paul Broun, the U.K. and Canada "don't have the appreciation of life as we do in our society." Let's see. In Canada and the U.K., everyone gets medical coverage. You don't have to sell your house to get a heart bypass and you're not denied insurance if you've got a pre-existing condition. "Once you get sick, they'll go looking through your paperwork for any little thing that got misstated and they'll take away the insurance," explains Raisa Deber, a health policy expert at the University of Toronto. "If you want to have a debate, have (it) about the facts," she says. "Don't have a debate by scaring people." Listen up, America. The U.S. spends 16% of its GDP -- the highest share in the OECD -- on health care. Yet America's infant mortality and life expectancy figures -- key measures of population health -- are worse than those of both Canada and the U.K. Swallow those facts and call us in the morning. calgarysun.com