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To: pogohere who wrote (53620)	8/16/2009 3:37:14 AM
From: elmatador	Respond to of 217752

“You can buy a tremendous amount of consensus for that kind of money.” “The scientific-medical complex is a $2 trillion industry,” that is too mcuh money slouched around that I was talk Tell the press the sickness came from a monkey and lets get the hands into that money... And the populace there buying all the crap...

To: pogohere who wrote (53620)	8/16/2009 9:10:05 AM
From: carranza2	3 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 217752

Duesberg is directly responsible for the death of several hundred thousand South Africans when his ideas were temporarily adopted by a similarly insane S. African president who believed, as you and that great scientific mind, elmat, do that HIV has no relationship to AIDS. After watching the death rate climb, the S. Africans abandoned Duesberg's wacky ideas. The AIDS denialists occupy the same space as the Holocaust denialists, the flat earthers, those who think man did not really travel to the Moon, etc., but, as shown in S. Africa, are far more dangerous because their ideas literally kill people.

To: pogohere who wrote (53620)	8/16/2009 4:33:13 PM
From: Gib Bogle	6 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 217752

You want to believe that one immunologist is right and all the many thousands of others are wrong. You want to believe that the thousands of experiments performed and scientific papers published on HIV/AIDS are deliberately ignoring and/or covering up the truth. You want to believe that there is a vast conspiracy to deny the truth of Duesberg's theory in order to defend jobs, research funding, status etc. This is similar to the belief that NASA faked the moon landings. With these ideas you certainly fit right in on this board, since Elmat interprets everything he sees in terms of corruption ("wayo").