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Politics : A US National Health Care System? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: HPilot who wrote (8334)	8/17/2009 5:59:17 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 42652

Then they know that their system is not good for us Not necessarily. Lies may be considered to be in the interest of the greater good. Worse things than lying have been done for what was perceived as a greater good. People who think that we have to be lied to, that we would not buy into their belief, so they must lie and cheat. Well, we wouldn't. So they do. I don't think there is an argument that is both honest and sufficiently persuasive. They are persuaded because they are pea-brained or brainwashed or thoughtless or belief-driven or emotional or ignorant or inarticulate or lacking a grip on reality--any or all of the above. But that doesn't make them insincere. They do not care about the people they lie to! Perhaps, but you cannot conclude that from the fact that they pitch something logically unsupportable and spin to hide the weakness. For some reason you have a need to demonize them as insincere, as well. I don't think you can logically support that conclusion any more than then can logically support what they're pushing. They did believe that communism was good for the people Indeed, so you take my point... <g>