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Politics : Bush-The Mastermind behind 9/11? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Skywatcher who wrote (19409)	8/17/2009 9:47:12 PM
From: longnshort	Respond to of 20039

so was Bush and you respected him, right ?

To: Skywatcher who wrote (19409)	8/18/2009 9:46:39 AM
From: longnshort	Respond to of 20039

Obama is anti free speech like most libs are. Obama Shuts Email Tip List (do you really believe these thugs shut it down ?) By AMY SCHATZ online.wsj.com WASHINGTON -- The White House on Monday shut down an email account set up to collect tips from Americans on "fishy" claims about President Barack Obama's health-care plan, as congressional Republicans raised new concerns about why some Americans received an unsolicited email from the White House last week. The White House shut down an email account "flag(at)whitehouse.gov" as congressional Republicans and bloggers continued to raise questions about why Obama officials were collecting negative statements made by ordinary Americans about the president's health care plan and what the administration was planning to do with the information it gathered. On Monday, California Rep. Darrell Issa, the top Republican on the House Committee on Oversight and Government Reform, asked the White House to clarify what it plans to do with the "fishy" information collected, raising concerns about "the potentially chilling effect the White House's request...may have on Free Speech rights." A White House spokesman didn't immediately respond to requests for comment about Mr. Issa's letter. The White House's decision to pull the plug on its email tip list came as officials there also announced changes to its email policy designed to prevent advocacy groups from signing people up for White House emails without explicit permission. Last week, the White House sent out a mass email from senior presidential adviser David Axelrod that sought to address concerns raised about the proposed health insurance overhaul plan. Mr. Axelrod urged recipients to forward the message to friends and family to combat similar emails sent by opponents of the health care plan. Some recipients of the emails complained about getting spammed by the White House email since they had not signed up to receive messages. Mr. Issa also asked the White House to provide information by Aug. 31 about how it compiled the list used to send out the mass email.

To: Skywatcher who wrote (19409)	8/18/2009 11:24:50 AM
From: longnshort	Respond to of 20039

If Bush did this you pinheads would be going nuts. This Just In: "Intimidator in Chief"? A report in today's WSJ describes President Obama's alleged attempt to "lean on" "Douglas Elmendorf, the director of the supposedly nonpartisan Congressional Budget Office, who last week told Congress that you can’t 'save' money on health care by having government insure everyone." Elmendorf seems clearly right, at least to me: the Obama administration's claim that universal insurance will save money is hard to take seriously. But that is beside the point. What is more troubling is the apparent attempt to silence dissenting opinion. As I mentioned in a previous post, officials at the EPA, apparently with approval from the Obama administration, recently took actions to quash a report from some of its own scientists that questioned some of the central assumptions behind Obama administration climate initiatives. This second incident now suggests a worrisome pattern. Politics should not trump the truth, and our political agendas should not be allowed to interfere with the vigorous pursuit of the truth. We often do not know what the truth is, and often people of good faith disagree about important issues. That is an abiding fact of the limitations in human abilities. The only way to make the most of our limited abilities, however, is to allow open discussion and debate, and to encourage unfettered pursuit of the facts, regardless of where that leads. jamesotteson.com