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To: cosmicforce who wrote (118746)	8/18/2009 9:34:19 PM
From: Dale Baker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541933

The basic issue here is legislation that tries to help give seniors more choices about their last weeks and months, and scaremongering liars who claim repeatedly that the legislation is going to take away their ability to choose and actually condemn them to death if a government bureaucrat decides that is more "efficient" for society and the economy. That is a despicable lie told by despicable scumbags. When "politics" becomes a game of trying to scare little old ladies into your camp, you have reached a new low. Though I shouldn't be surprised. The wingers have pretty much shut down all attempts to reform the Republican Party after their shellacking in '06 and '08. They have nowhere left to turn except to get more crazed and more vitriolic to rally their base and try to scare enough independents back to their side to repeat the 2004 experience. Karl Rove must be very pleased. Too bad he hasn't won a thing since 2004 using those tactics.

To: cosmicforce who wrote (118746)	8/18/2009 9:57:01 PM
From: Wharf Rat	Respond to of 541933

That was so well said. "There are bad ways to die.," involving me, and not so bad ways, at home or with hospice care. I can't say I enjoyed waterboarding patients (and I claim first dibs on that usage)...squirting salt water down their ET tube, maybe swishing it around with manual bag ventilation, vacuuming it all out. Fortunately, the patient was usually unconscious, and mostly the witness would leave the room, and it was all covered under the Geneva Convention, but...