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To: i-node who wrote (506726)	8/20/2009 6:16:01 PM
From: Alighieri	Respond to of 1576723

The American people are stupid sometimes but not THAT stupid. Well, I would argue with you when it comes to the American right...pretty stupid if you ask me...lots of supportive evidence if you've been paying attention. Al

To: i-node who wrote (506726)	8/20/2009 6:25:30 PM
From: Alighieri	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1576723

New Poll: 77 Percent Support "Choice" Of Public Option surveyusa.com Weep inode...the worm is turning. Al

To: i-node who wrote (506726)	8/20/2009 6:29:29 PM
From: Road Walker	2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1576723

If you think you're going to pin this pork-filled stimulus on anyone but Obama you're nuts. The American people are stupid sometimes but not THAT stupid. He left us with the financial system in collapse, the auto industry in collapse, two quagmire wars, unemployment skyrocketing, a 13 month old recession about to turn into depression, 0 Fed rates, record deficits, record trade deficits, no fiscal ammunition left in the gun. We're damn lucky we have some competent people in charge of the country. Bless your lucky stars. If he can pull us out he is the Messiah. We all said on this this thread "The poor SOB that wins the election is inheriting a nightmare". Would you really want McCain right now?

To: i-node who wrote (506726)	8/20/2009 6:36:28 PM
From: Alighieri	Respond to of 1576723

States With Most Uninsured Most Likely To Believe Euthanasia, Govt. Takeover Myths First Posted: 08-20-09 09:53 AM \| Updated: 08-20-09 10:15 AM The states that have been most skeptical of President Barack Obama's agenda for health care reform also have some of the highest levels of uninsured people in the nation. A new study by Gallup shows that large swaths of populations in the South and West -- anywhere from one-in-five to one-in-four individuals -- are currently lacking health insurance coverage. These same regions also have the largest percentage of populations who believe widely perpetuated mistruths about the Obama agenda, including allegations that the president will set up "death panels" and wants a complete government takeover of the health care system. According to Gallup, of the 25 states with the greatest percentage of the uninsured, all but three are based in the South or the Midwest. LIST OF STATES WITH MOST UNINSURED Texas - 27 percent of the population is uninsured New Mexico --- 25.6 percent Mississippi - 24 percent Louisiana - 22.4 percent Nevada - 22.2 percent Oklahoma - 22.2 percent (considered a Midwest state) California - 21 percent Wyoming - 20.7 percent Florida - 20.7 percent Georgia - 20.7 percent South Carolina - 20.4 percent Montana - 20.3 percent Alaska -- 20.2 percent Arkansas - 20.1 percent Colorado - 20 percent Oregon - 19.4 percent West Virginia - 19.3 percent (considered a Northeast state) North Carolina - 19.3 percent Idaho - 18.8 percent Utah - 18.1 percent Kentucky - 17.9 percent Tennessee - 17.8 percent Nebraska - 17.7 percent Alabama - 17.2 percent Missouri - 17.1 percent (considered a Midwest state) STATES IN SOUTH AND WEST ARE AS FOLLOWS South: FL, NC, SC, AL, MS, GA, VA, TN, KY, LA, AR, TX West: NM, CA, OR, WA, AK, HI, MT, ID, UT, NV, AZ, WY, CO Compare these findings to those pulled from a recent Daily Kos/Research 2000 poll, which showed that more people in the South and Midwest are prone to believe myths about Obama's health care plan than in other regions of the country. In the South, 26 percent of the public said they believed the health care reform plan being considered by President Obama and Congress requires elderly patients to meet with government officials to discuss "end of life" options, including euthanasia. Twenty percent of Westerners said the same thing. In the Northeast and Midwest those numbers were 11 percent and 17 percent respectively. Meanwhile, 45 percent of Southerners said they thought Obama's health care reform included a government takeover of the entire health care system. Twenty-three percent of Westerners agreed. In the Northeast and Midwest those numbers were 10 percent and 20 percent respectively. That populations most in need of comprehensive insurance reform are most likely to buy into false criticisms of the president's plan is a fascinating window into the current state of the health care debate. Theoretically, the president should be receiving more support in his efforts to expand coverage from those who currently lack it. The opposite, however, seems to hold true.

To: i-node who wrote (506726)	8/20/2009 6:46:21 PM
From: bentway	1 Recommendation Respond to of 1576723

Obama's most powerful moment, however, may have come when he addressed a caller who had supported his 2008 campaign but was concerned that the president's knees were "buckling" when it came to getting health care reform passed. "I guarantee you," he told the caller, "we are going to get health care reform done. And I know that there are a lot of people out there who have been hand wringing and folks in the press are following every little twist and turn of the legislative process. You know, passing a big bill like this is always messy. FDR was called a socialist when he passed Social Security. JFK and Lyndon Johnson, they were both accused of a government takeover of health care, when they passed Medicare. This is the process we go through because understandably, the American people have a long tradition of being suspicious of government, until the government actually does something that helps them, and then they don't want anybody messing with whatever gets set up. And I'm confident we're going to get it done."