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To: tejek who wrote (506873)	8/21/2009 12:33:33 AM
From: TopCat	1 Recommendation Respond to of 1578144

"That's right. I don't know why I want reform....it just feels good to think about it." We know why you want it, Moonbeam. You want a free ride. You want somebody else to pay your bills.

To: tejek who wrote (506873)	8/21/2009 7:32:10 AM
From: Brumar89	Respond to of 1578144

A challenge to advocates of the proposed health care reform: 1) Whats the goal of reform - is it about insuring the uninsured or is it about controlling costs? ------------------------------------------------------------- 2) If its about controlling costs: If single payer will control health care expenses and most health care costs occur near death (during medicare years iow) why isn't medicare (single payer insurance) controlling our health care costs? ------------------------------------------------------------- 3) If its about insuring the uninsured: If we could buy a high deductible catastrophic health policy for every uninsured person for a fraction of Obamacare, why couldn't we just do that? BTW we could make them pay for it by adding a health insurance surtax on the uninsured to their income tax bill. Then it wouldn't cost anything or at least not very much. After all, when we talk about the uninsured, we're not talking about destitute people or they'd qualify for Medicaid. ------------------------------------------------------------- I think advocates of health care should be able to answer these simple basic questions. If they can't, I think I'm justified in thinking its all about something else. And I think its all just about socializing health care for the sake of ideology. All the other cooler countries have socialized single payer health care so we should too. 4) One reform advocate has claimed reform will control costs by economically exploiting the newly insured. Charging them substantially more than it costs to insure them and using the profit to help fund Medicare. Is that the unstated view of most reform advocates - the secret plan behind reform? Also see: Message 25880147