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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Solon who wrote (26957)	8/24/2009 2:53:03 PM
From: koan	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

I hear that. Einstein said the most amazing thing, is that we can contemplate the universe at all. They have found even slime molds with no brains can learn. Physics experimentation is starting to show in the lab that the quantum rules that pertain to the atomic world, may also apply to the macro world as well. So the universe may not exist if we do not observe it? As crazy as that sounds. Two books I learned a lot from are: Quantum Evolution by John Joe Macfadden, a molecular biology professor in Surry England; and "Nothingess" by Henning Genz about vacuums and particle physics. Alfred Noth Whitehead said: "we have this tendency to divide the universe into the organic and inorganic. I think consciousness is a third system in the universe" I also think consciousness is a third system. It only makes sense. First universes are birthed through vacuum fluctuations or some other quantum phenomena, then life sprouts up when things cool down and water becomes available and then life reaches the point of being able to build computers which can engineer immortal super sentient beings. It all makes logical sense to me and means life is probably pervasive throughout the universe, but consciousness may actually have an existing system that advanced sentient being can plug into at some point?

To: Solon who wrote (26957)	8/24/2009 9:40:30 PM
From: koan	Respond to of 28931

Very poetic. >> You and I are discussing and analyzing things while we stand on a grain of sand hurtling through space and time. I question things like: Why is there evolution?? Why does evolution go in this direction and not that direction?? We could follow the Buddha and say "DESIRE". But does that spider have "desire"?? In a subtle sense, he or she MUST?? Do laws come before consciousness or does a self organizing principle create (or reveal) patterns?? If we believe in something can we make it exist? Dismissing the silly Gods invented by man is a transparent and simple matter. But we still float on a leaf across an infinite pond and we wonder...<<