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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (71198)	8/27/2009 1:24:34 PM
From: chartseer	7 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224737

Oh bummer! Please don't speak for me. Speak for yourself only. In my opinion the lyin liberal should be put in a 1967 olds 98 and dropped into the deep blue sea. Sorry but in my opinion death doesn't suddenly turn a scumbag into a saint. Once a scumbag always a scumbag even a dead scumbag. comrade chartseer

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (71198)	8/27/2009 1:57:08 PM
From: MJ	5 Recommendations Respond to of 224737

Kenneth Obviously, you feel that you have lost your leader---sincere condolences to you in your grief. However, I would differ strongly with your assessment of the people born from 1928 to 1942. They have had many leaders and have been leaders themselves. I would hardly call those born in those years the silent generation. Many of those born in those years became the leaders in the Reagan Revolution of the late 1970's and the 1980's. Reagan accomplished what former Democrat Presidents had failed to do. Reagan brought together people of all races and backgrounds in a coalition that won the election with and for him. Needless to say, the accomplishments of those born in that time are outstanding------silent they were not---they were doers and achievers. Did they look to Ted Kennedy to be their leader, hardly, they were too busy making a positive difference in our American society.

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (71198)	8/27/2009 1:59:46 PM
From: tbancroft	2 Recommendations Respond to of 224737

Wow, this 'torch-bearer' is the closest you ever got? Let's Honor Ted Kennedy By Defeating Universal Coverage, Like He Himself Did in the Seventies The best chance for such a thing, ever, and Kennedy blocked it. In Kennedy's mind, all of these achievements paled next to his long-deferred dream of national health insurance. When President Nixon proposed a plan for universal coverage that would have delighted Democrats in later years, Kennedy, who long backed a government plan, led the opposition, a move he later regretted. So he moved to partial reforms, but even here he was often disappointed. His hopes of a major restructuring were dashed in the early 1990s with the defeat of Bill and Hillary Clinton's health-care initiative. Slublog notes that health care seems not to have been Kennedy's most cherished dream. Mindless partisanship was. So let's win one for Teddy. Let us call ourselves the Ted Kennedy Memorial Single-Payer Opposition and Capitalist Private Health-Care Supporting Movement. Ouch: Treacher clever: "If they're going to talk about Camelot, then we get to talk about The Lady in the Lake." Thanks to Dave in Texas. Shock: Devall "19% Approval" Patrick Would Support a Change in Kennedy's Previous Law to Allow an Appointed Successor/Regent: Kennedy, remember, changed the old law taking away then-governor Romney's ability to appoint an interim senator. Just before he died Kennedy insisted that it be changed again, because Massachusetts needs two Senators, which it didn't need three or four years ago. Rumor has it -- I'm out on a limb here, but I'll pass the rumor along anyway -- that Kennedy's and the Masshole Dems' change of thinking may be somehow tangentially related to the fact that Romeny is a Republican and Patrick is a Democrat. Ace of Spades HQ

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (71198)	8/27/2009 5:06:28 PM
From: Ann Corrigan	9 Recommendations Respond to of 224737

Ken, May he R.I.P. - but Sen Kennedy never picked up anything other than a golden opportunity handed to him on a silver platter by his older brother JFK. John did all the heavy lifting while li'l bro Ted, far less intelligent and charismatic, rode into the senate on his bro's coat-tails and sat pompously and cluelessly thereafter.

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (71198)	8/27/2009 5:14:10 PM
From: TideGlider	3 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224737

Ted Kennedy was a liar, a drunk and a killer of at least one young girl. Your re-writing of history is shameful and obvious.

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (71198)	8/27/2009 5:15:45 PM
From: longnshort	5 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224737

King Kennedy Can you believe this creep was honored with the highest civilian award of this nation. Who nominated him? This really makes me sick. The Last of The Kennedy Dynasty As soon as his cancer was detected, I noticed the immediate attempt at the "canonization" of old Teddy Kennedy by the mainstream media. They are saying what a "great American" he is. I say, let's get a couple things clear & not twist the facts to change the real history. 1. He was caught cheating at Harvard when he attended it. He was expelled twice, once for cheating on a test, and once for paying a classmate to cheat for him. 2. While expelled, Kennedy enlisted in the Army, but mistakenly signed up for four years instead of two. Oops! The man can't count to four! His father, Joseph P. Kennedy, former UP.SO. Ambassador to England (a step up from bootlegging liquor into the US from Canada during prohibition), pulled the necessary strings to have his enlistment shortened to two years, and to ensure that he served in Europe, not Korea, where a war was raging. No preferential treatment for him! (like he charged that President Bush received). 3. Kennedy was assigned to Paris, never advanced beyond the rank of Private, and returned to Harvard upon being discharged. Imagine a person of his "education" NEVER advancing past the rank of Private! 4. While attending law school at the University of Virginia, he was cited for reckless driving four=2 0times, including once when he was clocked driving 90 miles per hour in a residential neighborhood with his headlights off after dark.. Yet his Virginia driver's license was never revoked. Coincidentally, he passed the bar exam in 1959. Amazing! 5. In 1964, he was seriously injured in a plane crash and hospitalized for several months. Test results done by the hospital at the time he was admitted had shown he was legally intoxicated. The results of those tests remained a "state secret" until in the 1980's when the report was unsealed. Didn't hear about that from the unbiased media, did we? 6. On July 19, 1969, Kennedy attended a party on Chappaquiddick Island in Massachusetts. At about 11:00 PM, he borrowed his chauffeur's keys to his Oldsmobile limousine and offered to give a ride home to Mary Jo Kopechne, a campaign worker. Leaving the island via an unlit bridge with no guard rail, Kennedy steered the car off the bridge, flipped, and into Pouch Pond. 7. He swam to shore and walked back to the party passing several houses and a fire station. Two friends then returned with him to the scene of the accident. According to their later testimony, they told him what he already knew - that he was required by law to immediately report the accident to the authorities. Instead Kennedy made his way to his hotel, called his lawyer, and went to sleep. Kennedy called the police the next morning and by then the wreck had already been discovered. Before dying Kopechne had scratched at the upholstered floor above her head in the upside-down car. The Kennedy family began "calling in favors", ensuring that any inquiry would be contained. Her corpse was whisked out-of-state to her family before an autopsy could be conducted. Further details are uncertain, but after the accident Kennedy says he repeatedly dove under the water trying to rescue Kopechne and he didn't call police because he was in a state of shock. It is widely assumed Kennedy was drunk, and he held off calling police in hopes that his family could fix the problem overnight. Since the accident Kennedy's "political enemies" have referred to him as the distinguished Senator from Chappaquiddick. He pleaded guilty to leaving the scene of an accident, and was given a SUSPENDED SENTENCE OF TWO MONTHS. Kopechne's family received a small payout from the Kennedy's insurance policy and never sued. There was later an effort to have her body exhumed and autopsied, but her family successfully fought against this in court, and Kennedy's family paid their attorney's bills.... a "token of friends hip"? 8. Kennedy has held his Senate seat for more than forty years, but considering his longevity, his accomplishments seem scant. He authored or argued for legislation that ensured a variety of civil rights, increased the minimum wage in 1981, made access to health care easier for the indigent, funded Meals on Wheels for fixed-income seniors, and is it; widely held as the "standard-bearer for liberalism". In his very first Senate roll he was the floor manager for the bill that turned U.S. immigration policy upside down and opened the floodgate for immigrants from third world countries.. 9.Since that time, he has been the prime instigator and author of every expansion of an increase in immigration up to and including the latest attempt to grant amnesty to illegal aliens. Not to mention the pious grilling he gave the last two Supreme Court nominees, as if he was the standard bearer for the nation in matters of “what’s right”. What a pompous ass! 10. He is known around Washington as a public drunk, loud, boisterous, and very disrespectful to ladies. JERK is a better description than "great American". "A blonde in every pond" is his motto. Let's not allow the spin doctors to make this jerk a hero -- how quickly the American public forgets what his real legacy is. Send this on, as a LOT of the younger people don't have a clue about all of this, and us older ones tend to forget things that happened so many years ago. Although I HAVEN'T! Source is anonymous----but pretty much as I remember---mj