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To: Chip McVickar who wrote (11930)	8/27/2009 5:41:26 PM
From: Woody	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 12410

Hi Chip, good to see ya posting again. Can't answer for Patrick but haven't found any 2x nat gas ETF's. Two I know of are .. GAZ is 1x etn, UNG 1x etf. Here's a site listing most if not all ETF's including grains .. seekingalpha.com Woody

To: Chip McVickar who wrote (11930)	8/27/2009 5:42:29 PM
From: Real Man	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 12410

I think UNG is the only one, and CFTC was going after it, which caused the latest NG selloff. You can make it double or triple by using options, although right now it has premium built up due to position limits imposed by CFTC, so the tracking of near month NG futures is now imperfect. There is also GAZ, unleveraged, which trades in Toronto. That one is OK so far. You'll pay 5c time premium for $8 September UNG call strike, more than a triple. A triple fund would pay that too, by the way.

To: Chip McVickar who wrote (11930)	8/28/2009 10:00:12 PM
From: Patrick Slevin	Respond to of 12410

Ultras? I dunno. In Gas ETFs I just use UNG. In AGs I stick with COW, MOO and FEED. I've been away, down at the Jersey Shore, and now at a lake home up near Pennsy. When I'm away I don't get into it as much. But offhand those are what I use, and currently lightly Long FEED and UNG. Bond Futs I'm interested in, Looking to get Long and strong into the end of the year.