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To: maceng2 who wrote (19036)	8/31/2009 6:02:36 PM
From: Northern Marlin	1 Recommendation Respond to of 50650

Well, you should have held your nose and continued reading; there were references to other sites not affiliated with OISM. I know nothing of Dr. Frederick Seitz. My sole interest was making the point to my two ignorant senators that if consensus is so important to them then here is evidence that there is no consensus among scientists on this issue. That's why I also referred to the minority report, supported by 700+ scientists. I also do not know anything about those people. If you think this Seitz has stooped to fabricating 31,478 signatures of scientists please, by all means, show me the links where I can read about it. I saw no point in arguing with my senators over the science of this issue since they are both socialists and only interested in accumulating power. Being politicians they do, however, understand the power of public opinion and I thought if I could make them see that they might turn out to be on the unpopular side of this issue later on down the road that it might affect their vote in the near future. I'm in agreement with you on the recent low sunspot activity. Here's an excerpt from an article by Bob Hoye that I found on the web last week: Fortunately, Mother Nature is actually chilling out on the climate - and not a moment too soon. Our July Climate Report noted that the months of June and July were unusually cool in New York City. That was reported by the NAOO National Weather Service. In their August 11 report on the contiguous United States, NOAA noted: "The average July temperature of 73.5 F was 0.8 degrees below the 20th century average". Unfortunately, the movement has yet to chill out, but one of the main influences on cooling from the above average high readings of a few years ago continues. The declining phase of the last solar cycle that might have ended in late 2006-early 2007 has extended, establishing the deepest solar minimum since 1913. The table updates to August 25: Spotless Days Current Stretch: 46 Days 2009 Total: 188 Days (79%) Since 2004: 699 Days Typical Solar Minimum: 485 Days On data back to 1849, there are only 6 sets of consecutive spotless days longer and those were in the high 40s. The longest were 48 days to May 1902, 54 days to April 1879, 63 to May 1901 and 92 to July 1913. These numbers are real, un-manipulated and cannot be refuted by ambitious statists to use yet another set of personal revelations to impose authority upon the public. The other aspect that is beyond political spin is the cooling that always goes with a deep solar minimum. Link: safehaven.com