To: Sully- who wrote (73678 ) 9/6/2009 5:05:03 AM From: Sully- 1 Recommendation Respond to of 90947 Re: Truther or Consequences By: Jonah Goldberg The CornerI agree with Mark entirely . I believe in the need to police your own side. National Review's been doing that for more than a half century. But, while we can debate all day who is fringe and who needs policing, the right doesn't run jack these days. Meanwhile, there's a guy in the administration who believes things that every decent liberal I've ever met has always assured me has no place in mainstream liberalism. I can't tell you how much eyerolling I have put up with from liberals who insist that, for example, Michael Moore isn't part of mainstream liberalism. I don't buy it. But Van Jones is to Moore's left from what I can tell and he's drawing a paycheck from the White House. But that's an argument for another day. Now, obviously, he has to go and will. For instance: How, exactly, will Jones do his job when cap-and-trade comes up again? Does the White House really want a 9-11 Truther/Marxist whackadoodle being its "green jobs" mouthpiece on the Hill? How will that go over with the Blue Dogs? Anyway, here's the question I find interesting. What will Jones say once he's thrown under the bus? Will his apologies and disavowals remain operative or will he go back to being a radical? Mark writes: <<< Is Van Jones a real Truther or a faux Truther? The White House position is that he's the latter - hey, he just glanced at it, saw it was some routine impeach-Bush-for-killing-thousands-of-his-fellow-Americans thing, and signed it without reading it; we've all been there, right? Van Jones Trutherism, like Van Jones Communism and Van Jones Eco-Racism Theory, is a kind of decadence: If you really believed 9/11 was an inside job, you'd be in fear of your life. Instead, for a cutting-edge poseur like Jones, it's a marketing niche, one that gives you a certain cachet with the right kind of people - like, apparently, Barack Obama. >>> Quite right. But does Jones revert back to faux truther or does he maintain his newfound model citizen pose because the pay is so much better? Update: From a reader: <<< I've experienced the same "Oh, you _must_ be joking, Moore is a fringe type, not mainstream" retort. For that matter, some years ago an older liberal got hot under the collar when I mentioned in passing Senator-for-life Kennedy as a leader of his party. Here's the way it works: liberals have a comfort zone, and decree that anyone outside of their personal, emotional zone are "not real liberals". Sure, everyone does this to some extent, but liberals do it a lot, many do it all the time. The interesting thing is if you approach them from an idea-focused point of view, you can get liberals to admit they agree with almost everything a Mike Moore or even a Van Jones say, but they'll still insist "Oh, no, that guy is way out there". Duh, huh? You agree with the ideas on a one-by-one basis, but insist he's not like you? This particular form of cognitive dissonance has long mystified me. I've actually sat with people over the course of a long afternoon conversation and had the experience, and it's weird. Now, what makes you believe Van Jones will be fired? The Obama White House is astoundingly tone deaf when it comes to any group of people outside of the hothouse circuit/bubble that The Lightworker has lived in for years. You think the same people who called protesters un-American care about what anyone thinks of Van Jones? Don't forget, more than a few of the big donors to the 2008 campaign come from Bay Area / NYC / Chicago / LA circles where the same 9-11-troofer blood libels were common coin for years. Obama's supporters not only agree with Obama, they think, and talk, like Van Jones. They'll back him up. So don't count on Jones to be leaving any time soon. >>> He is toast. Guaranteed. The longer it takes the better for Republicans, but he's got to go. Not because it's the right thing to do, but because it's the necessary thing to be done. corner.nationalreview.com