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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: RMF who wrote (71415)	9/2/2009 4:25:50 AM
From: Jorj X Mckie	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224718

you seem to be obsessed with what i think about Bush. I already showed that I criticized Bush. I do believe that Obama has only caused limited damage so far...other than it being blatant political payback, but between Cap & Trade, Healthcare, GM, Financial industry power grab, Petrobas and the radical beliefs of the Czars, I see a potential for devastating changes in the U.S. culture and economy. Anyway, you ask many questions and you answer few. So, when you answer a few questions and show that you are similarly willing to criticize Obama, then we can have a reasonable conversation.

To: RMF who wrote (71415)	9/10/2009 1:48:46 PM
From: TimF	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224718

"at the cost of their children's future" Did you bring that up when Bush cut taxes for the wealthiest. Tax cuts are not "at the cost of" "their children's future", but rather "to the benefit of". Also the tax cuts where broad bases not specifically targeted at or only effecting the wealthiest. Did you bring that up when Bush DOUBLED the national debt in 8 years? I had a problem with Bush's reckless spending and deficits as well. Not at first, with 9/11 and a few other things I gave him a bit of a pass in the first couple of years, but after continuing to spend like crazy, his pass expired. Now Obama is going further in terms of spending and deficits. Obama is the president now. Bad decisions by Bush don't give Obama a pass on his own bad decisions, esp. when Obama's are worse. The bailout hasn't COST us anything so far. We may actually make a PROFIT from the bailout. No its cost us quite a lot, even if your only including relatively direct monetary terms. If your also including the general expansion of government and increase in moral hazard and perverse incentives, than the cost is even higher. Obama hasn't passed any healthcare legislation or any other legislation that has really affected stuff. Not yet, but to use an analogy to a policy you didn't like, would you give Bush a pass on Iraq policy a few days before the invasion?