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To: Road Walker who wrote (509814)9/2/2009 3:16:35 PM
From: Tenchusatsu  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1583507
 
RW, > I think the answer is obvious... they want a roof over their heads and food on the table. And it's a 'buyers market' for labor; much more supply than demand.

Yep, that's all true, but most of that was true even when unemployment was down to 5% several years back.

I'm not saying this because I think we should all tolerate lower living standards to compete against, for example, Mexico. I'm just bringing up the stratification between immigrant and native-born workers, which the study highlighted IMO. And our economy has accommodated this stratification, for better or for worse.

Tenchusatsu



To: Road Walker who wrote (509814)9/2/2009 3:52:27 PM
From: tejek  Respond to of 1583507
 
Again, why do they take it? ... Those are the kind of questions the study didn't ask, much less the mainstream media.

I think the answer is obvious... they want a roof over their heads and food on the table. And it's a 'buyers market' for labor; much more supply than demand.


I am surprised you are bothering to give him a straight answer to his nonsense. If you are poor and don't speak the language, you are screwed in this country. That's why we have had fairly liberal laws in the past.......to get cheap labor into this country to man our factories. Our immigrant laws became more restrictive only when that cheap labor was no longer needed in large quantities anymore. And that cheap labor has virtually no rights whether they are legal or not. Apparently, Ten has never seen an LA sweat shop.

As for immigrants finding things so much better here than in their home countries.....that's another winger myth. A lot of immigrants are shocked to find things are not as nice as they were told and/or imagined. Often, they live in the worst parts of our cities.....in ghettos. Most had never lived in a slum before.

Many regret having moved here....esp. the ones who were fairly well educated but couldn't find work in their fields because of the language barrier. Furthermore, they can't afford to go back, having spent all their savings to come here. And even if they could, they wouldn't because of the embarrassment of admitting they were wrong.

So they do what Ten's parents did.......live through their kids and hope that they have a better life. Its another American myth that the right loves to promote.