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Politics : A US National Health Care System? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: i-node who wrote (9018)	9/3/2009 10:07:25 AM
From: skinowski	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 42652

I wonder if these actual British guidelines aren't pretty close to the "death panel" notion: Message 25912918 Futile treatments are expensive and... futile. In many cases they just prolong suffering. People are realistic, and at some point most are ready to face reality. However, I think it is not the government's place to start going about "encouraging" them. Governments are insensitive and heavy handed, and should be kept in their place.

To: i-node who wrote (9018)	9/3/2009 2:02:34 PM
From: wlcnyc	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 42652

"...The "death panel" discussion was more or less a Limbaugh-esque development, typical hyperbole. For the most part, it was development out of the entertainment sector (with the exception of a couple of pols who jumped into the act). I never saw any mainstream discussion involving "death panels". It is a leap from "concern over bureaucrats limiting access to health care" to "death panels"..." It was actually Sarah Palin who used the hyperbole of "death panels." She was the one who started the discussion and she was the one who elicited a response from the President on the subject. Sometimes it takes a little "over the top" to get a discussion going. Her full "note" on the subject is at this link: facebook.com As one of the speakers said the other night at the townhall meeting I went to, you will not find the word "ration" in H.R. 3200 but that doesn't mean that it is such a leap to assume that rationing will become fact. With the creation of the Center for Comparative Effectiveness Research (Sec 1401), the views of Ezekiel Emanuel (see link below), Obama's promised cuts to Medicare, his comment about making "hard choices", etc. how much of a leap is it to that which at least functions as a death panel. DEADLY DOCTORS O ADVISERS WANT TO RATION CARE nypost.com Bill