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Politics : A US National Health Care System? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: gg cox who wrote (9022)	9/3/2009 3:06:59 PM
From: Lane3	4 Recommendations Respond to of 42652

that would mean all the numbers for homicides and accidents for all other developed nations would have to be factored out also.. They were. Our homicide numbers really skew the data because so many of them involve young people. Like infant mortality, because the victims are so young, one death had an outsized impact on the averages. Can you imagine the chant from the rabble"" we're #1,we're #1 because we kill more of our citizens by homicide and accident"" and lol It would be both ironic and in poor taste but valid. What would really be ironic would be if we were to somehow cut our homicide rate concurrent with the enactment of Obamacare, the Obamacare advocates would probably give the health care system credit for the improvement in the statistics.

To: gg cox who wrote (9022)	9/3/2009 4:48:33 PM
From: Brumar89	Respond to of 42652

As Lane pointed out, homicides were factored out across the board (and traffic fatalities). They didn't just remove OUR homicides and traffic fatalities. The US has a lot more homicides than most developed countries. And those have nothing to do with our health care system. American health care improved compared to the rest it would not be something to shout from the roof tops...but be ashamed of. American health care is likely already the best in the world. Its okay for us to be proud of that. The American system would fair even better, if suicide,chronic deseases,Hiv/Aids, cancer and heart disease would be factored out but you would have to do the same for the rest of the developed nations so would point back to...why bother. I assume suicide is considered a form of homicide. Chronic diseases, HIV, cancer and heart disease should be counted as they are affected by the health care system. I assume we're a little worse than most developed countries on HIV and heart disease, probably a little better on other diseases and cancer. i know you will come up with something.<g> I did. You just dismissed it out of ignorance. It doesn't fit what Michael Moore tells you.