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Politics : A US National Health Care System? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: ProDeath who wrote (9063)	9/3/2009 9:28:18 PM
From: TimF	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 42652

The distinction you draw between evil government and evil non-government. It seems you decide what position you want to attack and then pretend that is the other person's position. I didn't draw any such distinction. I didn't say government was evil, or that the private sector could not be evil. What you are calling government is generically just ultimate power Well if you have a business with a monopoly on legal/accepted aggression and a general ability to deter or destroy rivals in an areas than the business effectively is the government. it matters little whether it is exercised by a 100% private sector death squad or a sheriff presenting a bureaucrat's signature. True but the reality is that we (by which I mean people in the US, despite the fact that I don't know what country you live in, it also holds for Canada, at least most of Europe, Japan, South Korea, Australia, New Zealand etc.) don't face much of a problem with private sector death squads. We do have problems with unjust actions by government (typically not "death squads, but you only used that example for the private sector). Also people in a situation where private sector death squads are a major problem, either are facing a general break down in order (in which case war, insurrection, and/or anarchy is the problem, not corporate oligarchy), or the death squads operate with at least the tacit permission of the government, or they operate in the shadows and are much less powerful and impact on most people's lives far less than the government. For practical purposes this stuff may as well be Marxist dogma or anarcho-capitalism Not at all.