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To: arno who wrote (1292)9/4/2009 5:18:27 PM
From: Jorj X Mckie  Respond to of 23934
 
Excellent Response!!! Exactly what I was looking to accomplish with my post.

I have been working out at a natural gas plant for the past couple of months and I do have to say that they are aesthetically much nicer than dirt burners. So clean and so quiet.

This is a relatively new plant so the only safety video that they had was the one used for the contractors during construction. The hoops that the plant owner had to jump through to build this plant were ridiculous. If they found a beer can that was thrown there in the 60s they had to call in the archeologist or anthropologist. God forbid that they find an old rabbit or coyote bone, that would suspend construction while they did a controlled dig around Wile E's lunch. And then there were the burrowing owls and damsel shrimp that simply couldn't exist in that area anyway.

And all of this had the support of the unions.

If I was the owner of the plant, i would say "ok, do you want electricity here or not? if so, clear the path and quite throwing up obstacles or we'll put the freakin plant somewhere else"

France really has done the nuclear thing right. We should really pay attention to what they have done. I think your point about re-processing is very important.

As far as coal, you know what my views are there. It's abundant here in the U.S. and it's cheap. There is such a thing as clean coal. I've stared in the gaping maw of a scrubber myself. The aerosols are precipitated out and the solid waste can be dealt with in appropriate way. Admittedly, putting a fly ash dump alongside a river may have been of questionable judgement, but realistically that crap can be dumped back in the cut before they reclaim the land. Most of what goes up the stacks is H2O and CO2. And as much as I do not believe that CO2 is "pollution" there are ways to scrub that too. I've been in trona mines where the walls are coated with sodium bicarbonate. The natural reaction of trona when it comes in contact with CO2 is to make baking soda. If they really need to scrub the CO2 out, somebody will figure out a way to do this with natural and abundant minerals that are out there right now.

Domestic Oil - well, I think it is immoral to stop drilling in the US because we don't want to ruin the view on our coast or don't want to hurt our natural environment and then ask other countries to ruin their views and hurt their environment instead. And frankly, those platforms are already off the california coast and my understanding is that they are for the most part shut down. hell, they are already ruining the view, use the fuckers.

while we are trying to figure out alternatives to fossil fuels we will be relegated to the list of fallen empires.