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To: Brumar89 who wrote (73844)	9/5/2009 5:20:33 PM
From: Brumar89	2 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 90947

Radical rightist former Carter aide says Jones must go Well, its only radical rightist racists that disapprove of Jones isn't it? So if Beckel, a former Carter adm aide, is against him ...... he must be a radical rightwing racist too. Radical Right-Winger Bob Beckel Says Van Jones Has To Go Oh, Bob Beckel isn't one of those rabid, frothing, evil right-wingers out on a witch-hunt to get Van Jones? Well, he's on Fox News, so I guess that immediately disqualifies him in certain circles. Transcript via NewsBusters. VALERIE JARRETT, OBAMA AIDE: We were so delighted to be able to recruit him into the White House. We've been watching him. ROSEN: That Valerie Jarrett, one of the president's closest aides, expressed such enthusiasm for Jones less than a month ago, suggests Mr. Obama was also aware of Jones' hiring. Yet congressional Republicans have begun calling for Jones to resign and for hearings. And by week's end, such sentiments were not confined to the GOP. BOB BECKEL, FOX NEWS CONTRIBUTOR: My guess is that the resignation letter is being written as we speak. ROSEN: As an aide to President Carter, Bob Beckel is a White House veteran, and he's urged the current president to drop the ax soon. BECKEL: Obama has been accused during the campaign of associating with people who were radical, whether it be Bill Ayers or Reverend Wright. He has to do with Jones what he did with Wright, which is to cut his relationship off. ROSEN: A White House official told FOX NEWS today what is obvious by now, that Van Jones, quote, "wasn't fully vetted prior to his appointment." But Valerie Jarrett's statement last month that "we've been following him for as long as he has been active out in Oakland" suggests that Jones' views and style, Bret, have long been known to the president and to his advisors. Emphasis mine. It's gotten so bad even the rather liberal New York Daily News says it's time for Jones to go. Here's the mea-kinda-culpa Jones put out yesterday: "If I have offended anyone with statements I made in the past, I apologize. As for the petition that was circulated today, I do not agree with this statement and it certainly does not reflect my views now or ever." Wait: Did he sign it or not? If he doesn't agree with the views and did sign it, what could possibly have possessed him? It was troubling enough that the White House was prepared to give an environmental volunteering effort a massive megaphone on Sept. 11, which should be reserved for a solemn remembrance of lives taken by terrorist thugs. It was more troubling when it turned out Jones gave credence to 9/11 lies. And it is still more troubling that the man can now only muster a half-hearted, nondenial denial. We're Jonesing for a real reckoning. If it doesn't come from the green-jobs guru, it'll have to come from his boss. Obama's been in hiding the past several days and in some respects we should be thankful since his ubiquitous presence in every facet of our lives has grown to be more than tedious. But it's time to man up, Barry, and send yet another extremist pal of yours packing. Van Jones, meet Reverend Wright and Bill Ayers. Although I'm assuming you're all well-acquainted. jammiewearingfool.blogspot.com

To: Brumar89 who wrote (73844)	9/5/2009 6:53:32 PM
From: mph	7 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 90947

Playing the race card is easier than actually constructing a logical position. Their argument must go something like this: Yes, Van Jones should be the green czar. After all, he apologized for anything offensive. He just signs things he doesn't read, says things he doesn't mean, starts organizations he doesn't intend to support, uses off color language when he knows he's being taped, admits to being a communist, which shouldn't matter, has stated that white people deliberately poison people of color,etc. What's not to love? It is obvious that anyone who thinks he should resign thinks so only because Jones is black.

To: Brumar89 who wrote (73844)	9/6/2009 2:01:56 AM
From: Sully-	1 Recommendation Respond to of 90947

Look, when you're an uber LWE who has deluded yourself into believing you are a true "centrist", it's just as easy to invent an alternate reality that paints anyone with an opposing POV in the absolute worst light. No one on this thread has made anything remotely close to a racist comment about Obama or any other black politico. The discussion has always been about issues & actions. mph was spot on too; "Playing the race card is easier than actually constructing a logical position." They always manage to find a way to obfuscate the issues when the facts & evidence point to an unfavorable conclusion for the leftist world view. As Brumar89's outstanding post* noted yesterday, - While conservatives prefer reality, the Left lives in fantasyland with its home base being the past - creating icons out of them [the Kennedy's] is as foolish as a grown adult still believing in Santa Claus - progressives live in a hallucinatory world because the harsh realities of life stun them - the Left edits out the unflattering details about its heroes, leaving only a chimerical world, a Camelot on earth. But what is Camelot anyway? It's a made up place of dreams and wishes that come true if you only believe hard enough. It's the bedtime story we tell our children to lull them to sleep when they're afraid of the dark - liberals think that life should just be about the l0,000 joys. If there is sorrow, it means that something went terribly wrong, and someone should pay - the number one reason why the Left hates the Right, it would be this: because we shine the harsh light of reality on the Left's starry eyed hopes and dreams - For us, personal behavior matters. If a man abandons a woman to die, or sleeps with little boys, or calls his grandma a "typical white woman," this speaks volumes about his character - the Left detests us because, to them, we're the spoil sports. We're the mean parents who break up the party and make all the children go to bed. We lecture them to mind their manners, respect their elders, and "Who do you think you are to talk to me that way?" - We expose their hair brained plots to change the world for what they really are -- castles made of sand that will vanish with the first strong wind. - perhaps most of all, we trigger in their memory banks those excruciatingly vulnerable moments when the bubble burst, the truth broke through, and they were forced to look reality squarely in the face * Message 25919289