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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: TimF who wrote (71751)	9/9/2009 7:01:04 PM
From: lorne	Respond to of 224738

Ex-staffers threaten primary Supporters demand public option By CAROL E. LEE politico.com Several dozen former Obama campaign supporters gathered in front of the White House shortly after noon to demand that ... ... the president insist on the creation of a public option for health insurance – and threatened to work against Obama in 2012 if he doesn't. "Any health reform that does not have the public option is not change we can believe in," said Adam Green, co-founder of the group Progressive Change Campaign Committee, which organized the protest. The demonstrators called on Obama to stand squarely behind a voluntary, government-run insurance option in his speech to a joint session of Congress Wednesday night. A handful of protesters spoke out, including field organizers from Ohio, Missouri and Pennsylvania, and supporters from Colorado and Virginia. "I don't know how hard my volunteers are going to work in the future if the president gives up now," said Mike Elk, an Obama campaign field organizer in Pennsylvania. "Don't demobilize the troops before the big fight with the insurance industry. We can win this one." Katie Brown, an organizer in Colorado, took the sentiment a step further, saying if Obama does not support a public option, "I would have to work for someone else who would support a public option in a primary in 2012." The protesters held signs reading: "I'm a former Obama staffer and I support the public option." "I will not work for Barack Obama even though I worked my butt off for him in the last presidential cycle – I will not work for him again if he abandons the public option," said Lauryn Beer, who campaigned for Obama in Virginia. "And I don't know of any other way to drive down the insurance company monopolies and their high costs in all of our states across this country without the public option." Protesters relayed stories of conversations with Organizing for America and White House staffers who have reportedly said in private that they agree Obama should not give up the public option. Some recounted the sacrifices campaign supporters made to work for Obama last year – "We quit jobs, we left girlfriends, we put off student loans, we put off a lot in our lives, we dropped out of school," Elk said. Andrea Gleaves, a field organizer in Missouri said of Obama: "He needs to lead, and he can lead with a public option tomorrow night."

To: TimF who wrote (71751)	9/10/2009 8:01:41 AM
From: lorne	Respond to of 224738

Tim...there may be some here interested in this. "Presidents Clinton, Bush and Obama all have influenced bullion banks and other central banks to mobilize gold to suit their own agendas. One of them has been to keep US interest rates unnaturally and artificially low. This is not conjecture on GATA’s part. Gibson's Paradox was the observation that the rate of interest and the general level of prices were observed to be correlated. The term was first used by John Maynard Keynes in his 1930 work A Treatise on Money. In 1988 Lawrence Summers co-authored a paper in the Journal of Political Economy titled "Gibson’s Paradox and the Gold Standard." In essence he said there was a relationship between gold and interest rates … or, keep the price of gold down and US interest rates would also be kept down. Summers followed Rubin as Treasury Secretary and followed in his footsteps regarding US gold and his "Strong Dollar" policy." "What he said about US monetary policy and gold – this bit on the record – would appear to validate the long-held belief of gold bugs that China has fundamentally lost confidence in the US dollar and is going to shift to a partial gold standard through reserve accumulation." "*This leaves the clandestine selling, and lending of gold by The Gold Cartel, which is The US government; various bullion banks like JP Morgan Chase; and other central banks like the Bank of England. The problem is The Gold Cartel is hitting the wall regarding tapping into available central bank supply. They are down to using either IMF or US gold to meet the increasing annual demand/supply deficit. This has put them under severe pressure as these gold sources are quickly depleting and cannot be sustained before President Obama’s term is over" Full post at>>>> Message 25925561

To: TimF who wrote (71751)	9/10/2009 8:30:38 AM
From: tonto	2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224738

More focus and pressure by citizens should be placed on Obama regarding the huge tax increase on capital gains that they are trying to slide through the health care bill. "The Health Care Bill that is currently under consideration will increase the capital gains tax rate to 24% after 2010. After adding state tax rates that range from 6% to 10%, the combined state and federal capital gains tax rate will range from 30% to 34% after next year, depending upon your state of residence. There is also the possibility that Congress will accelerate the capital gains tax rate increase to take effect as of this coming January rather than January of 2011. Given this fact, many owners of privately held businesses are looking for ways to sell part or all of their businesses in order to lock in the current, historically low capital gains tax rate. Other owners are simply looking to sell their businesses and retire before mounting budget deficits bring back sky-high interest rates that make it all but impossible to sell their businesses. But even now, owners are finding it difficult to attract much interest either from private equity funds or from strategic buyers due to the uncertain state of the economy and the lack of bank credit for buyout transactions."