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To: Road Walker who wrote (511951)	9/10/2009 10:46:06 AM
From: longnshort	Respond to of 1579369

yeah the details, like who will be on the many death panels

To: Road Walker who wrote (511951)	9/10/2009 10:54:04 AM
From: i-node	Respond to of 1579369

Obama has a house and senate majority Except the both the House and Senate have been reamed out for a solid month by their constituents who don't want this government takeover of health care. Unless they just wear the American People down on this issue, they can't get a majority in the Senate to support it. In the house, it is a mess -- a large number have said they won't support the bill WITH a public option, and a large number of said they won't support it WITHOUT a public option. the support of the AMA Right. A tiny fraction (maybe 20%) of physicians and only a portion of THOSE actually support it. the support of pharma Nonsense. If Pharma supports it they're going to have to see how they'll profit from it. the support of the nurses association, the support of big business This is ridiculous. Most business people certainly oppose this kind of government intervention. Walmart supports the public option because it will put dollars on their bottom line. I don't know of any other "big business" supporting any of it. the tepid support of the insurance companies, the support of the people (depending on how the question is asked). Talk about TEPID. As in "nonexistent". You're a freaking lunatic. Reform is a done deal. Just need to work out the details. If you call passage of any-old-legislation "reform", it is a done deal. SOME bill will be passed. Whether it will be "reform" is another matter. My guess is it takes a bad situation and makes it worse.

To: Road Walker who wrote (511951)	9/10/2009 11:37:21 AM
From: tejek	Read Replies (4) \| Respond to of 1579369

I see Obama's speech really stirred up the peanut gallery. They are out in force this AM. Who cares? Exactly. The Rs have become completely irrelevant. Obama has a house and senate majority, the support of the AMA, the support of pharma, the support of the nurses association, the support of big business, the tepid support of the insurance companies, the support of the people (depending on how the question is asked). You know........sometimes I think he plans it this way.......lets things move right to the brink and then he comes charging in on his white horse, saving the country in the process. And the Rs fall for it every time. Reform is a done deal. Just need to work out the details. I know. I didn't want to say it......you know how excitable the wingers are and they are already agitated. They might hurt themselves. ;-)