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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Jorj X Mckie who wrote (71982)	9/13/2009 4:47:42 PM
From: longnshort	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224733

"you have provided no evidence that it is easy to get a non-routine birth certificate in hawaii, now or ever." a cert. of birth not a birth certificate I think you are confused about the difference and yes I showed you how easy it is to get a cert. of birth.

To: Jorj X Mckie who wrote (71982)	9/13/2009 4:49:01 PM
From: longnshort	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224733

. If a child born in Hawaii, for whom no physician or mid wife filed a certificate of live birth, and for whom no Delayed Certificate was filed before the first birthday, then a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth could be issued upon testimony of an adult including the subject person) if the Lieutenant Governor was satisfied that a person was born in Hawaii, provided that the person had attained the age of one year. (See Section 57-40 of the Territorial Public Health Statistics Act in the 1955 Revised Laws of Hawaii which was in effect in 1961)." that's pretty easy

To: Jorj X Mckie who wrote (71982)	9/13/2009 4:50:24 PM
From: longnshort	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224733

saw this,looks pretty easy. It seems it IS possible to be born in one place, yet be documented being born in another. Can someone explain how a person born in China winds up holding a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth? Background: en.wikipedia.org Sun Yat-sen (12 November 1866 or 24 November 1870 – 12 March 1925) Sun Yat-sen was born on 12 November 1866 to a peasant family in the village of Cuiheng, Xiangshan county, Guangzhou prefecture, Guangdong province (26 km or 16 miles north of Macau). The latter claim is likely to be correct, as the Certificate of Hawaiian Birth was issued based on Sun’s typewritten testimony, rather than on any documentation from witnesses…. After receiving a few years of local school, at age thirteen, Sun went to live with his elder brother, Sun Mei, in Honolulu. Sun Mei, who was fifteen years Sun Yat-sen’s senior, had emigrated to Hawaii as a laborer and had become a prosperous merchant. The certificate: scribd.com A portion of the certificate reads: “……And it appears from his affidavit and the evidence submitted by witnesses that he was born in the Hawaiian Islands on the 24th day of November A.D. 1870…”