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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (72364)	9/20/2009 9:57:42 PM
From: lorne	2 Recommendations Respond to of 224725

ken..."We all knew the protests were staged by Fox News."... Who is " we "? "the protests"? you mean all protests were staged by Fox? Fox is not a political party. Has the dem party staged anything? :-)

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (72364)	9/20/2009 10:00:02 PM
From: lorne	3 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224725

Ken...what in the world is going on..this upstart saying no to the one...bama not going to be happy that someone dare say no to him. Governor Paterson bucks President Obama: I'm still going to run in 2010 By Kenneth Lovett, Elizabeth Benjamin and Meredith Kolodner DAILY NEWS STAFF WRITERS Updated Sunday, September 20th 2009, nydailynews.com A defiant Gov. Paterson Sunday said he still plans to run for a full four-year term next year despite a stunning White House request that the poll-challenged governor step aside. "I've said time and time again I am going to run for governor next year," Paterson said in Harlem. "My plans have not changed." Paterson did not deny a Sunday Daily News report that White House political director Patrick Gaspard met with him last Monday to discuss the concerns the Obama administration has with him - and their preference he not run next year. The message was also relayed Friday during a Paterson dinner with Rep. Gregory Meeks (D-Queens), a long time Paterson pal who told the governor that President Obama's chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, does not view a Paterson candidacy as "tenable." The fear, sources say, is that former Mayor Rudy Giuliani would be more likely to enter the 2010 governor's race and win - and that Paterson will drag down other Democrats. Paterson's job approval rating has hovered at around 20% for months and a poll just last week showed 65% of Democrats hoping someone else would run. "I'm not going to discuss confidential conversations," Paterson said repeatedly. Things could be particularly uncomfortable Monday as Paterson aides say the governor plans to attend an economic speech Obama is due to deliver in the Albany area. Paterson, according to sources, was not invited to Obama's Wall Street speech last Monday, the day his meeting took place with Gaspard. Paterson received very little support Sunday, even from his closest allies, as word spread of the White House's involvement. The Rev. Al Sharpton, long a Paterson supporter, sent out a non-committal statement that could be best described as muted. Sharpton said he has spoken to Paterson and Obama aides to express his concern "that we do what is best for the people of the state of New York and towards the goal of enacting the change policies in education and health that we voted for." Mayor Bloomberg said he would tell Paterson what he would tell anyone who wants to run for office - "go for it." "Clearly he's had some difficult times, his popularity has suffered as he's had to make tough decisions…and in the end, I think he can make a case to the public as to why he should be (elected) if he chooses to do so," Bloomberg said. In perhaps sending a signal of defiance to Obama, Paterson on Thursday, four days after the meeting with Gaspard, named Richard Fife as his campaign manager, signaling to many his intention to run next year. Fife, a veteran New York political operative, was a volunteer New York adviser for the Obama campaign and was an Obama delegate to the Democratic National Convention. The message to Paterson not only represents the White House trying to heavily influence a top state race, but also is a case of the first black president pressuring New York's first black governor to step aside. A former Paterson aide said the White House involvement is the final nail in Paterson's coffin. "He won't be able to raise money and for all intents of purposes, he's been put into a lame duck situation and when you're a lame duck you have less leverage to negotiate a safe landing spot," the former aide said. A Paterson decision to withdraw from the race would clear the way for Attorney General Andrew Cuomo, who many Democrats and union leaders would prefer to be the candidate. At the very least, by letting Paterson know he will not have the backing of the White House, and the world's most important black leader, Obama's easing pressure on Cuomo. The attorney general has worked hard to recover from his failed 2002 Democratic gubernatorial primary against H. Carl McCall, who was seeking to become the first black governor. Paterson has irked the White House several times. The governor, despite the historic nature of the campaign, initially endorsed homestate Sen. Hillary Clinton for president over Obama. Earlier this year, while it was clear Obama preferred that Paterson select Caroline Kennedy to replace Clinton in the Senate, Paterson picked little-known upstate Rep. Kirsten Gillibrand. His aides then trashed Kennedy publicly after she withdrew her name for consideration. More recently, Paterson went on a rant that racial bias was behind his negative coverage and claimed that Obama was the next target, a charge refuted by Obama's press secretary. Paterson took office in March 2008 after Eliot Spitzer resigned amid a prostitution scandal. While his poll numbers were high at first, they began plummeting over his handling of the budget, which dramatically raised spending and taxes and fees, and his handling of the U.S. Senate appointment. As Paterson has failed to resurrect his dismal poll numbers - 70% of New Yorkers, including 65% of Democrats said in a Marist poll last week that they don't want him to run next year - momentum has been building for him to step aside. Democratic lawmakers and labor union leaders have openly challenged and mocked him, with many saying they fear his weak standing could hurt other Democrats' chances at the polls next year. All the while, Cuomo has gone about his business while noticeably refusing to rule out a run next year.

To: Kenneth E. Phillipps who wrote (72364)	9/21/2009 2:49:14 AM
From: SmoothSail	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224725

They didn't stage this one. Matter of fact, they didn't even cover it, but over 1000 people attended it.