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To: bentway who wrote (514967)	9/21/2009 1:21:21 PM
From: longnshort	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1576655

no the tax payer will pay for them. If Obama gives gov health insurance to US citizens here the courts have ruled he has to give it to illegal aliens also

To: bentway who wrote (514967)	9/21/2009 1:27:56 PM
From: i-node	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 1576655

Except that, they have to provide and insurer, which would mean they PAID for the treatment they were recieving. As usual, you and CJ are running off at the mouth about subjects you know not one thing about. =========================== Quoting -- On its face, the proposed health care bill seems to deny benefits to illegal aliens: "Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States." (See Section 246.) But this language does not provide any mechanism to ensure illegal aliens will actually be prevented from accessing the system. Typically, aliens wishing to access taxpayer-funded benefits via a social program must be vetted through the Systematic Alien Verification for Entitlements (SAVE) program in order to verify legal status. It is used in determining aid eligibility for a number of governmental programs – e.g. Medicaid, TANF – and you would expect Congress to mandate the use of SAVE in the health care legislation, but the bill does not. U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services explains that the SAVE program is "designed to aid benefit-granting agencies in determining an applicant's immigration status, and thereby ensure that only entitled applicants receive federal, state, or local public benefits." One congressman attempted to amend the health care bill in order to ensure illegal aliens could not benefit. Among other things, the amendment would have mandated the use of the SAVE program. However, the amendment failed by one vote. This amendment's failure to pass indicates that Congress is not serious about preventing illegal aliens from accessing taxpayer-subsidized health care under the new proposal. Health care bill does not affirmatively state who is eligible. The health care legislation does not affirmatively define who is eligible to receive taxpayer-funded benefits. The section aimed at preventing illegal aliens from accessing the proposed health care subsidy does not adequately address whether, how, and which legal immigrants can take advantage of the system. There has been very little public debate on whether temporary workers, foreign students, and mere visitors should be eligible. Furthermore, there has been no discussion about whether green-card applicants should benefit – i.e. those who are not yet actually lawful permanent residents, but are waiting on the vetting of their application. The lack of clarity in this debate has resulted in no small measure from the lack of clarity in the bill draft itself. Take, for example, Section 242 which defines an "affordable credit eligible individual," which is someone who is eligible for the proposed health insurance subsidy. The section states that: