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Politics : A US National Health Care System? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: John Koligman who wrote (9794)	9/24/2009 1:56:45 PM
From: Road Walker	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 42652

Good post John.

To: John Koligman who wrote (9794)	9/24/2009 2:30:16 PM
From: Lane3	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 42652

Misses the point. "Bureaucrat" in this context means government bureaucrat, not a functionary in a private firm. I realize that everyone doesn't parse language all that carefully but the issue is government vs private. Red tape is red tape and paper pushers are paper pushers, but neither matters as much when you're dealing with a private provider because then you have a contract and the option to take your business elsewhere.

To: John Koligman who wrote (9794)	9/24/2009 2:38:23 PM
From: Peter Dierks	Respond to of 42652

So bottom line here: if you don't think bureaucrats are currently between you and your doctor- THEY ARE! GET REAL! IT'S BEEN THAT WAY FOR THE LAST 10 YEARS OR MORE! With the government takeover under ObamaCare the will be no "our doctor" to call, it will simply be denied.

To: John Koligman who wrote (9794)	9/24/2009 5:23:21 PM
From: skinowski	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 42652

Yeah... typically it wasn't quite as bad as in this post, often insurance companies would approve things - especially if you give them the buzzwords they need to mark off on their forms... but it was pretty bad. In fact, this was the reason which broke the camel's back in my case. A day came when my office manager told me that she just spent 50 minutes on the phone trying to get an approval for one of our patients to see a specialist. I realized that this was the end. No one was as good as my office manager, and if it took her almost an hour to get a simple routine referral, that meant that it was time to throw in the towel.