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To: ManyMoose who wrote (326008)	9/25/2009 12:49:51 AM
From: KLP	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793911

....old trees cut down for the briefest and most undignified of ends. Oh, my....that last statement of the lefties just is almost too good to pass up.... Maybe the Dems and the Enviro Greenies could use 4 grit ~~ There would be some justice with that. ...the rest of us choose not to go back to the last 5000+ years ... Their ends may not be dignified, but mine certainly is...<ggg>

To: ManyMoose who wrote (326008)	9/25/2009 3:05:59 AM
From: RinConRon	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793911

Mark Steyn was funny sitting in for Limbaugh today. He brought up this latest anti-toilet paper crusade by the loons. He referred to Sheryl Crow as Sheryl "give one piece a chance" Crow. The Northern brand is a Canadian company and he said that Canada is the "Saudi Arabia of toilet paper."

To: ManyMoose who wrote (326008)	9/25/2009 9:52:30 AM
From: miraje	13 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793911

Toilet paper... accounts for 5 percent of the U.S. forest-products industry, according to industry figures. Paper and cardboard packaging makes up 26 percent of the industry, although more than half is made from recycled products. Newspapers account for 3 percent. I can think of some newspapers that would be far more valuable being converted into toilet paper..

To: ManyMoose who wrote (326008)	9/25/2009 11:01:36 AM
From: SteveinTX	5 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793911

"Should I contribute to clear-cutting and deforestation because the big [marketing] machine has told me that softness is important?" This is a supposed quote from a guy in the industry. Yet, any literate fifth grader, using the internet, can find the true source of paper 60 seconds. I wonder why this Post writer didn't check the underlying accuracy of the quote? Do you think he has an agenda? This took me 120 seconds to find, but I'm not as smart as a fifth grader: tappi.org Most trees used for paper come from forests called managed timberlands. Even though the trees in these timberlands may look like “woods,” they are an agricultural crop - like vegetables on a farm. The trees are grown to be made into products for human use. Not using paper in order to save trees is like not eating salad in order to “save” vegetables. Full Disclosure Alert: I happen to like soft TP.

To: ManyMoose who wrote (326008)	9/25/2009 1:45:30 PM
From: Ron M	2 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 793911

A few words from an old papermaker. I worked in the industry contemporaneously with Mr. Whipple. The preferred species for toilet tissue in our operation was poplar (popple) because of the fiber length of that species. Softness was/is created by causing the individual fibers to lay atop one another in a random jackstraw fashion in a slurry before removing the water and drying the sheet. The positioning of the long fibers creates voids for both softness and absorbency. Paper created from recycled fiber, for the most part, consists of shorter individual fibers. The poplar tree itself is quite short lived, as compared to other trees,and is harvested near maturity. When harvested, reforestation occurs naturally from suckers sprouting from the roots and provides increased cover, browse, etc for wildlife. Also as an avid hunter I seldom found wildlife in mature stands of poplar. The suckers, however, provided accessible browse for deer and creatures. Just a few facts about papermaking.