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To: Horgad who wrote (105412)	9/25/2009 1:08:57 PM
From: Skeeter Bug	2 Recommendations Respond to of 110194

the private GW hawkers want money and to be able to pollute and the government wants tax money. if they are right, great. if not, oh well, they've already transferred the wealth. the green party likes it b/c it is in line with their belief system. btw, i think it is fine to have beliefs and to advertise them to win converts. i just don't appreciate the lying and misleading and the ad hominem attacks on reasonable people gets old.

To: Horgad who wrote (105412)	9/25/2009 1:59:22 PM
From: benwood	2 Recommendations Respond to of 110194

"What man needs [...] is a proven and effective way to control the climate (up or down) that overrides all other factors and that can be manipulated by man to his hearts content." I nominate the Federal Reserve for this job. <g>

To: Horgad who wrote (105412)	9/25/2009 10:20:55 PM
From: ScatterShot	4 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 110194

I would like to know the impact of orders of magnitude on the climate change debate. Since I do not know much about the atmosphere, I go to Widipedia and find that: "The atmospheric composition on Earth is largely governed by the by-products of the very life that it sustains. Earth's atmosphere contains roughly (by molar content/volume) 78.08% nitrogen, 20.95% oxygen, a variable amount (average around 0.247%, National Center for Atmospheric Research) water vapor, 0.93% argon, 0.038% carbon dioxide, and traces of hydrogen, helium, and other "noble" gases (and of volatile pollutants)." en.wikipedia.org That means that CO2 is .00038 of the atmosphere, or 380 parts per million. Without citing references, (excuse me please) I seem to remember that it might have recently climbed to ~420 ppm. What I would like to know from some non-hysterical reply, is how can an insignificant increase of some insignificant element be causing all this hysterical discussion? TIA from an admitted dumba$$.