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To: unclewest who wrote (326389)9/28/2009 6:12:05 AM
From: FJB  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793955
 
General McChrystal indicated on 60 Minutes he has talked to the Obama exactly one time.



To: unclewest who wrote (326389)9/28/2009 6:14:50 AM
From: LindyBill5 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 793955
 
60 MInutes did a good segment on General McCrystal last night. He is quite right in saying that you can't stop an insurgent operation if you can't get the people on your side. But what is not said is that we can't get the Afghans on our side. No matter how many troops we put in. So change the setup.

Nobody, but nobody, suggests buying up the poppy crop. I just don't understand this lack of vision. Arm the friendly tribes and kill the bad guys. That's what we did the first four months and it worked.



To: unclewest who wrote (326389)9/28/2009 11:06:36 AM
From: MrLucky  Respond to of 793955
 
I feel certain we could activate the anti mine lobby against the Taliban and Al Qaeda if we explain that IEDs are in fact mines.

I take your point but do not see anything happening. The anti-mine people like Princess Di et. al. weren't concerned about the military getting injured or killed. They worried about kids stepping on a mine or playing with one and getting blown up.


Here we are 8 years into unconventional warfare and counter-insurgency. You would think our army would be the world's best ever at it - but that is not the case. Most of our army still does not understand the problem.

Are we now in the same sinking boat as the USSR was when they were in Afghan??




To: unclewest who wrote (326389)9/28/2009 4:44:21 PM
From: KLP  Respond to of 793955
 
How did we lose or not use that knowledge UW? AVM vs IED's??? Wasn't Princess Diana strong in visiting countries that had buried landmines? Where are the historians for the different Services?

In the old days IEDs were known as anti-vehicle mines. We have very effective tactics (developed in WW II, Korea and RVN) against anti-vehicle mines. But nobody seems to have thought about using them against IEDs.