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Politics : Liberalism: Do You Agree We've Had Enough of It? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: HPilot who wrote (72909)	9/30/2009 1:21:22 PM
From: FJB	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224736

I had to re-read it just to see what the deal is. I can't find a part where the constitution grants rights. If you read The Bill of Rights, the amendments are all phrased that existing rights will not be infringed upon. Check it out for yourself. I am ashamed to say it has been many years since I read it. usconstitution.net

To: HPilot who wrote (72909)	9/30/2009 1:55:44 PM
From: Little Joe	1 Recommendation Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 224736

I don't understand your point of view at all. Obviously you believe in God, so that is not the issue. There are many things that we could do absent human interference, these are referred by the founders as natural rights. For example a person cannot have the right to free health care granted to him by the government, because to do so would be to force another person to provide that "right". On the other hand whether or not the government recognized free speech, it is still a "natural right". It is something you have the right to do that can only be taken from you by force. If God can confer free will, why not free speech. lj

To: HPilot who wrote (72909)	9/30/2009 3:08:46 PM
From: Jorj X Mckie	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 224736

Jorie is correct that the founders believe it, however he believes it himself. God only gave free will. The constitution itself grants rights and powers. It does not state that they come from God. Excuse me? I quoted the Declaration of Independence and the US Constitution. I didn't even use the word "God", I used the word "Creator". Which happens to be the word that the Declaration of Independence uses. Do I believe that individuals have inherent rights. Hell yes! Do I believe that a legitimate government's purpose is to protect those inherent rights? Hell yes! Perhaps you should give some examples of where the Constitution grants rights to individuals.