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Politics : A US National Health Care System? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: skinowski who wrote (9928)	9/30/2009 5:01:46 PM
From: Mary Cluney	Read Replies (3) \| Respond to of 42652

<<<In many specialties doctors still make a good living, but unless something changes, being an Internist or Family doc is gradually becoming a thing of the past.>>> Why is that? I don't know but doing a quick back of the envelope type calculation, I figure that any Internist or Family doc could make $125,000 dollars a year without working that many hours. But I can see with specialists averaging $400k or $500k a year (and with some surgeons making $mms) why would anyone want to make much less. What am I missing? Back of the envelope business model: Total Income: $250,000.00 ___________ Medical Insurance 20,000.00 Assistant 35,000.00 Office rent 36,000.00 Office Overhead 34,000.00 Take home 125,000.00 All you would need is to see 20 patients a day - not exactly a heavy workload.

To: skinowski who wrote (9928)	9/30/2009 8:09:25 PM
From: John Koligman	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 42652

Ski, I'm sorry some specialists are taking hits on their 6 and 7 figure incomes. Lots of highly educated folks are scrounging around for jobs. Income growth for college educated workers has been flat for something like a decade. Maybe doctors will have to join that club to a greater extent...

To: skinowski who wrote (9928)	10/1/2009 6:42:10 AM
From: Road Walker	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 42652

Must be a while since you were a kid.... :) Feels like centuries. Let's just say I liked Ike. In many specialties doctors still make a good living, but unless something changes, being an Internist or Family doc is gradually becoming a thing of the past. My Dad was a GP and a surgeon. Made hospital rounds in the morning, came home and took a nap and office hours in the afternoon/evening and would get home about 7:30; staying open late for working people. Worked with his brother who had the opposite schedule so always one of them at the office and the hospital. He made house calls if he had to and often had to leave in the middle of the night for an emergency. They ALWAYS had Wednesday off... do Docs still do that? We got tons of gifts from patients at Christmas... many from people he had treated for years for free because they were too poor to pay. He worked until he was 75 and was still doing surgery... the other doctors got together and said "sorry, we can't let you do surgery anymore you are too old". He retired and died of a heart attack two weeks later. He lived for his work. Is specialization costing the system more or less money?