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To: Alighieri who wrote (518682)	10/6/2009 5:35:51 PM
From: tejek	Respond to of 1585095

October 5, 2009, 4:57 PM ET Apple Exits From Chamber of Commerce Keith Johnson is the lead writer of WSJ.com’s Environmental And then there were five—defections from the U.S. Chamber of Commerce over its climate-change policy, that is. Apple today resigned its membership in the Chamber “effective immediately.” That’s a harsher tone than the other departures—three utilities said they’d let their membership lapse at the end of the year, and Nike simply quit the Chamber’s board of directors. At issue, again, is the Chamber of Commerce’s opposition to the Obama administration’s climate policy, most notably the Environmental Protection Agency’s decision to regulate greenhouse-gas emissions. Apple has recently been on a green crusade to catch up to tech rivals Dell and Hewlett-Packard which have a shinier environmental reputation. And of course, Al Gore is on the Apple board. From Apple government affairs vice-president Catherine Novelli’s letter to Chamber of Commerce boss Tom Donohue: We strongly object to the Chamber’s recent comments opposing the EPA’s effort to limit greenhouse gases…Apple supports regulating greenhouse gas emissions, and it is frustrating to find the Chamber at odds with us in this effort. We would prefer the Chamber take a more progressive stance on this critical issue and play a constructive role in addressing the climate crisis. However, because the Chamber’s position differs so sharply with Apple’s, we have decided to resign our membership effective immediately. The Chamber of Commerce says that it is not opposed to action on climate change, just the actions that have actually been proposed in Congress, or floated by the EPA. Still, Apple’s departure is just the latest sign of how quickly the U.S. business community is fracturing over the climate issue. blogs.wsj.com

To: Alighieri who wrote (518682)	10/6/2009 5:49:10 PM
From: i-node	3 Recommendations Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 1585095

Let's see...we spend by far the most, we live less, our infant mortality is higher, we leave millions uncovered, the disparity of coverage by economic scale is huge. We spend the most because we provide better care than any country on earth. And because we develop half the new medical technologies (including lifesaving drugs) IN THE WORLD. That costs money. While there are millions (about 15 million) who, other than by their choice, do not have health insurance, we have almost NOBODY IN THIS COUNTRY who go without essential health care. That includes illegal aliens, who largely get free health care here. There is SOME disparity of health care, but it isn't as great as you suggest. As an example a person with not one nickel or possession to his name other than the clothes on his back can be picked up by an ambulance on the street one minute and within literally minutes be receiving a CT for a suspected head injury. This is available ALMOST ANYWHERE IN THE UNITED STATES. And there is ZERO disparity between this person's treatment and that afforded the wealthiest of Americans. There are few countries who can make a claim like this. Of course there are problems, for example, with treatment of some chronic diseases. However, our country has done a great job of ridding itself (and many other countries) of diseases that previously were problematic. Bottom line: Nothing in your little paragraph holds waster. Not one point. As usual.

To: Alighieri who wrote (518682)	10/6/2009 6:44:33 PM
From: Brumar89	3 Recommendations Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1585095

Other countries don't measure infant mortality the same way we do. If you weren't a liberal you might know that.

To: Alighieri who wrote (518682)	10/6/2009 7:14:03 PM
From: Tenchusatsu	1 Recommendation Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 1585095

Al, > Let's see...we spend by far the most, we live less, our infant mortality is higher, we leave millions uncovered, the disparity of coverage by economic scale is huge...you don't want cause and effect...it would be like showing a birth certificate to birthers. We also have CYA procedures that increase costs like 50% thanks to stupid malpractice lawsuits, we have a sedentary lifestyle, and we import the poverty problems of Mexico and other nations because we're too afraid to enforce immigration laws. You don't want cause-and-effect ... it would be like showing facts to liberals. Tenchusatsu