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To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (19561)10/8/2009 12:35:41 PM
From: Antar8 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 50038
 
Wonder why their was no response when the neo-con dual loyalists were fully in charge and decimated the US constitution as well as led the US into wars that were against its interest. Maybe Obama is one the same team? You guys in the US live in interesting times (maybe the whole world). Hope it works out well and doesn't descend to the level that it can potentially.



To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (19561)10/8/2009 1:08:08 PM
From: shakes32 Recommendations  Read Replies (4) | Respond to of 50038
 
SOTB,

When you post this kind of inflammatory, irresponsible crap, do you simply suspend rational thought?

"Defend the Constitution" by supporting a military coup?

Say what? Is your cerebral cortext engaged? You don't see an implicit contradiction in this construct?

"...the dismantling of defenses against missiles targeted at this nation by avowed enemies"

This is simply irrational on its face. Iranian missiles aren't targeted on this nation. They can't fly that far. But, when you're hysterically disregarding facts, what the hell!!

Yeah, those "Death Panels" are going to kill grandma as well!!

Obama is no favorite of mine, but his strategy of engaging Europe and the Russians to put a leash on Iran is infinitely more effective than all the Cheney/Hannity saber rattling in the world. (It no longer surprises me that the "leaders" who never have been to war are so willing to pound the drums..)

Obama has also been horribly compromised by the Banksters, but he's not evil incarnate.

Be careful what you wish for.

Shakes



To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (19561)10/8/2009 3:48:42 PM
From: SOROS3 Recommendations  Respond to of 50038
 
Won't do any good, as prophecy is being fulfilled as we speak, and the masses are completely asleep.

It's all coming, and our new leader is leading the charge. How can so many people be as dumb as a sack of hammers? The guy said that ISLAM has always been a part of the American experience and history. I guess we have to rewrite the history books now to make Washington a Muslim, eh? What is wrong with these morons? OMG -- it's beyond belief they keep focusing on ANY politician -- Republican or Democrat -- they are ALL crooks and desirous of making a society with 99.99% sheep and .01% herders. Can people honestly not see what is taking place around them and WHO is leading the charge? DUMB AS A BAG OF HAMMERS!

Obama Orders Billions Secreted Into Making "Mark Of Beast" Microchip

A seriously chilling “confidential” report prepared by the US-based Russian think tank Institute for Democracy and Cooperation (IDC), and given to President Medvedev’s office this week, on the turmoil surrounding the “health care” debate currently raging in the United States claims that this “engineered controversy” is, in fact, being used as a “cover” to mask the planned microchiping of the entire American population by 2012.

According to this report, America’s propaganda corporate-government media organs have embarked this past summer on a programme of dividing its citizens along its many false fracture lines (racial/right-left/Democrat-Republican, pro gun-anti gun, etc.) over the Obama administrations plan to provide for the American people universal health care coverage.

So enraged have a substantial number of American’s become over what they say is Obama’s plan to “socialize” their country that one of their top lawmakers, Senator Jim Inhofe, has just issued a grave warning to his Nation by stating, “People are not buying these concepts that are completely foreign to America. We're almost reaching a revolution in this country.”

Even worse, so bitter has the false divide among the American people become that it is even affecting their ruling political class; and where in this past week alone, an Idaho Republican candidate, Rex Rammell, joked about his citizens obtaining “Obama tags” allowing them to hunt their own President, and a Republican Congresswoman, Lynn Jenkins, making the racially charged statement that her party was “struggling right now to find the great white hope” to counter Obama.

Being lost to these American’s, however, is that even before Obama became President, the United States had become one of the most socialized Nations the World has ever seen with over 51% of their Gross National Product (GDP) going towards providing income for their elderly and disabled, subsidized housing for their poor, universal health care for their elderly, veterans, children, subsidized mortgages for just about all of them, subsidized education for all of their students, subsidized food through agricultural subsidies, and too many other socialized programmes to mention.

Even more interesting, as this report points out, is the sheer insanity of these American’s protesting against universal health care for human beings while at the same time they accept as “normal” their government laws ordering them to pay for insurance on their automobiles and homes or risk losing them both.

So what, this report posits, would be the advantage of having these American’s driven to such fervor and angst over such a non-issue? And who, it also asks, is poised to benefit from this artificially created “quasi-revolution” currently fermenting among these witless American people?

The answer to these questions, this report chillingly continues, lies buried deep within the over 1,000 pages of the massive US Health Care Bill (PDF) in a “non-discussed” section titled: Subtitle C-11 Sec. 2521— National Medical Device Registry, and which states its purpose as:

“The Secretary shall establish a national medical device registry (in this subsection referred to as the ‘registry’) to facilitate analysis of postmarket safety and outcomes data on each device that—‘‘(A) is or has been used in or on a patient; and ‘‘(B) is a class III device; or ‘‘(ii) a class II device that is implantable.”

In “real world speak”, according to this report, this new law, when fully implemented, provides the framework for making the United States the first Nation in the World to require each and every one of its citizens to have implanted in them a radio-frequency identification (RFID) microchip for the purpose of controlling who is, or isn’t, allowed medical care in their country.

It goes without saying, of course, that this new “Med-Chip” these American’s will be forced to have put inside them will not only control their access to medical resources, but will also enable their government to know their whereabouts, spending habits, and so much more as to effectively make these people nothing more than “human cattle” to be herded, controlled, and if they object to their new status, led to the slaughterhouse.

And for those American’s believing they will be able to escape from having these Med-Chips implanted in them they better think again, because, as they will soon discover to their horror, under the laws of their country designed to protect them against pandemics, and other such health emergencies, their President, and governments, have unlimited power and can order their citizens to do, or take, anything their officials tell them to.

To how far the Obama administration has already gone in their planning to put these Med-Chips in their citizens, one only need look at the curious interactions between the US government and the only company licensed in the United States (since 2004) to implant microchips in human beings called the VeriChip Corporation.

Now what is widely known about the VeriChip Corporation and their microchip we can read from one report that states:

“VeriChip is the first Food and Drug Administration (FDA)-approved human-implantable radio-frequency identification (RFID) microchip. It is marketed by VeriChip Corporation, a subsidiary of Applied Digital Solutions, and it received United States FDA approval in 2004. About twice the length of a grain of rice, the device is typically implanted above the triceps area of an individual’s right arm.[1] Once scanned at the proper frequency, the VeriChip responds with a unique 16 digit number which could be then linked with information about the user held on a database for identity verification, medical records access and other uses. The insertion procedure is performed under local anesthetic in a physician's office. As an implanted device used for identification by a third party.”

What is NOT widely known about this VeriChip Corporation is the “new direction” they have taken since Obama has taken office, and as we can read directly from the website of their new subsidiary, VeriGreen Energy Corporation, and which says:

“In March 2009, the Company formed a new subsidiary, VeriGreen Energy Corporation, to invest in the clean and alternative energy sector. The Company is currently evaluating several opportunities and is looking to invest in companies with existing operations and infrastructure.

Following the recently signed stimulus package, which will invest nearly $79 billion in renewable energy, the Company’s investments in clean and alternative sources of energy will complement its existing healthcare initiatives.”

Now, what this IDC report says about VeriChip Corporation’s “sudden conversion” from being a maker of implantable microchips, to one of becoming a “green energy” giant lies not with them, but rather with Obama’s “Green Jobs Czar”, Van Jones, a man who is not only one of his President’s closest advisors, but is also an unashamed, and unapologetic, leftist radical and communist who is the sole determiner in who does, or doesn’t, receive billions in US taxpayer dollars already approved into law for dispersal for American’s green energy future, including an estimated $3 Billion to VeriGreen Energy Corporation.

And to how radical America’s new Green Jobs Czar is we can read as reported, in part, by the World Net Daily News Service:

“There are open questions as to how Jones obtained a White House security clearance. He spent time in jail several times, including in the wake of the 1992 Rodney King riots in Los Angeles. Jones was the leader and founder of a radical communist and black nationalist group, the communist revolutionary organization Standing Together to Organize a Revolutionary Movement, or STORM. The organization had its roots in a grouping of black people organizing to protest the first Gulf War. STORM was formally founded in 1994, becoming one of the most influential and active radical groups in the San Francisco Bay area.

STORM worked with known communist leaders. It led the charge in black protests against various issues, including a local attempt to pass Proposition 21, a ballot initiative that sought to increase the penalties for violent crimes and require more juvenile offenders to be tried as adults. The leftist blog Machete 48 identifies STORM's influences as "third-worldist Marxism (and an often vulgar Maoism)”

Jones position with the Obama Administration, on the other hand, has been described as his being the “switchboard operator for Obama's grand vision of the American economy; connecting the phone lines between all the federal agencies invested in a green economy.”

But, to what “green economy” are these unsuspecting American people being led into by Jones and his minions? The “Green of Islam”, which is that religions most important colour? The “Green Man” world of ancient Europe where his likeness can still be seen on countless cathedrals and churches? Or something as mundane as the colour of American money?

To all of these, and other such speculations, it is not in our knowing, other than the warning about these things we have been left with by the ancients and as written in the Christian book of Revelation

“He also forced everyone, small and great, rich and poor, free and slave, to receive a mark on his right hand or on his forehead.”



To: SliderOnTheBlack who wrote (19561)10/9/2009 12:40:46 AM
From: Bill on the Hill10 Recommendations  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 50038
 
Believe I am in the deep hole camp for now. Winter is no time to start a fight. But easy to defend in.

Better go put another log on. And have another apple with some homegrown chamomile tea. Garden put to bed. Landscaping finished. Addition completed. Only have the front walkway to concrete and landscape. Paintings going up on white walls.

Two hundred pounds or more of potatoes from the garden in the root cellar. 20 pumpkins about ten pounds apiece. 5 bushel of apple in leaves. Squash stacked. 200 ears of "Incredible" sweet corn in the freezer. Half a beef. Elk, deer meat. 125 lbs. of Basmati and Short brown rice. 100 lbs. pinto. Cases of dried tomatoes, potatoes, milk.

Elk fence finished, storage areas cleaned out and restored. Seeding of all disturbed areas done and growing. Compost pile built and turned. Firewood stored and three new cords in a pile and ready to split.

Tinctures and oils all put away. Vitamin C and D came in a week ago and have two cases of Vitamin D-3 50,000 units and two of 5,000 units made by Bio-Tech. Anything I could think I needed is put away. Lots of those things.

Gas and diesel for the tractors. Seed for the spring. Hoses stacked and ready for next year. Trucks repaired and licensed. Backhoe in the shop getting all new hydraulic hoses and the diesel racked.

Five years of projects designed to prepare for the worst. Peak oil advocate from the first day I read "Crossing the Rubicon" in 2004. Here we are. Plateau one or two of probably five bumps down to a new powerdown society.

Living in Toffler's "Future Shock". Right on schedule. Too much. Too fast. Future shock.

I figured a great thing to do was find a quiet secluded spot to witness the "real revolution" that is about to happen. I do not put any faith in governments being able to control what has escaped from the box. Figure the end of the path was barely far enough for me. So here I am.

They cannot shut down the internet. Impossible. They can fracture it but to shut it down means shutting down world commerce. They can revise it and change it. Own it and try to control it but....... Ultimately it will not be controlled. There is twitter and who knows what next. Social movement at light speed across continents. And hackers.

The cat is out of the bag.

There will soon not be a government big enough to control everyone. Even add them all up. Not big enough. The changes will sweep globally changing things. Wealth will reinvent itself and the rot purged from the system. Nationalist states will disappear and reappear until they will be considered nothing more than our garbage men. Barely deserving consideration.

Then we enter the new age of technical maturity and integration. When we have made it through the shock of change we have had in the last 100 years.

Realtime is approaching a critical mass. So much happens so quickly it is impossible to sustain attention to anything for more than a few minutes or seconds. We as a species are evolving into highly sophisticated beings capable of realtime communication worldwide. And multitasking on insane levels. This era we have gone through has just been the education phase of high tech. Wait till it blossoms.

I think a grand awakening will happen. Don't know when but I want to be here to witness it when it occurs.

So I keep my head down and my eyes open.

And enjoy the ride. Sure is interesting and we can say that we lived historical times. The tip of mankind. We are the lucky ones to observe this. Lets see if we deserve to take this to the next level. We have been preparing for this for millenniums.

ps: i am masonic. what do you think they teach? figure that for every dark force out there, there is a equal and opposite force opposing it. just make sure you know which side is the good side. that is the trick. then act accordingly.

build sturdy temples.

the constitution is one of those.

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