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To: LindyBill who wrote (328220)	10/9/2009 2:42:59 AM
From: KLP	1 Recommendation Respond to of 793955

AJStrata: "I think DC should be changed to stand for “Delusional & Clueless“. Spend $100 dollars to save $10? Oct 08 2009 Published by AJStrata under 2010 Elections, All General Discussions, Obamacare strata-sphere.com The silly news out of DC on the cost of the senate health insurance reform reminds me of an old Gallagher line about how is wife spent thousands of dollars each week shopping all the sales. His line went something like: “We have nothing in the bank, but we’re ahead by millions!” The media arm of the Political Industrial Complex is out ringing the bells that deficit reducing health care is here! Over the next 10 years we will save $81 billion dollars! The catch: to get this cool $81 billion dollars we have spend $830 billion. Tell you what America, give me $500 billion and I will give back $100 billion over ten years for a cool $400 billion in savings! How’s that? If you ever learned the lesson “what sounds too good to be true, usually is not true” then you probably ain’t buying this lame hype. Where did the $830 billion come from? Taxpayers and what’s left of their dwindling disposable income. And who gets the $81 billion in savings? Not the taxpayers! Lose-lose. How stupid do these people think Americans are? We all know that to get the $830 billion (and we know it won’t only be 830 billion, it will be some multiple of this higher) Congress is raiding Medicare, it is taxing drugs and medical devices and whatever else it can find (sodas?). We are ran a $1.4 trillion dollar deficit this last government fiscal year. We don’t have the $83 billion a year for this con just laying around not being spent. And the worse part – it won’t do much good. It is an enormous cost to get 23 million people (4.3% of the total population) onto some kind of insurance plan. Heck, you could give each of those 23 million $3,600 a year and it would be less complicated and risky. Even the far left says the bill doesn’t do much for all of us already covered (which, to pass, it better not ‘do much’ to our existing plans): That leaves 245 million non-elderly Americans who will pretty much be in the exact place they would’ve been otherwise. As for the elderly, the CBO doesn’t include them because they’re on Medicare. They, too, will be where they otherwise would’ve been. 245 million workers and their families will be bearing the burden for of the 23 million ‘uninsured’ as well as taking care of their own needs. That means those 245 million individuals are footing the bill for this mess, and that comes out to $3,387 per individual. For our family of six that means we have to cough up $20,326. Trust me, we have our own needs for this money – after all, we earned it. I say we stick with the current system where we cover the uninsured through increased prices and premiums and just stop pretending all this nonsense about ‘choice’ and ‘competition’ means ‘lower cost’ and ‘better care’. It is all a fiction folks. It is all a fantasy. A myth, an equation that is flawed and will never work. There is no magic wand out there that will make it cheaper to live longer and better. Biology is a very complicated natural wonder. We have exploited our knowledge of it to prolong our lives for centuries now. But each new breakthrough is more expensive and solves fewer problems. We are pushing the envelope of life, but it will never be cheap, and the best treatments will always be limited (for a brief time) to the powerful and rich. Research will reduce the cost of health care, not government rationed care. A strong economy will boost research and the ability to buy health care, not endless taxes and deficits. The system has and will always cover all in need. We are Americans, we do not allow people to suffer needlessly. Invest in America’s entrepreneurial spirit and creativity, stop relying on the bumbling idiots in DC – they have never been up to such a task as this, they always outsource to America and its bottomless ingenuity. Their is no emergency in our health care system – outside the fact Medicaid (the program the fools in DC want us to expand) is going broke, and Medicare is facing the baby boomers and their expensive end of life health care costs. We need to fix these problems, not blow $830 billion dollars on another liberal fantasy. This wild scheme does nothing for these looming problems, and probably makes them worse. Remember how well it all went with that liberal fantasy about how the government could stimulate the economy through spending on infrastructure projects? Better than the proven method of broad tax cuts, was the claim. It was a complete failure, because it was based on a fictional, feel-good sound bite. Same situation here. There is no free lunch. Stick with what we got, those egomaniacal ignoramuses in DC have no prayer of cooking up anything better. It will always come out worse. BTW, if the DC ignoramuses want to know what if feels like to be unemployed come November 2010, keep putting out BS to the public and threatening to ‘fix’ health care. According to Fox News surveys, the number of independents who oppose health-care reform hit 57% at the end of September, up from 33% in July. Independents are generally a quarter of the vote in off-year congressional elections. Among college graduates, opposition to health-care reform is now 50%, while only 33% support it, according to Gallup’s Sept. 24 poll. College graduates are slightly more than a quarter of the off-year electorate. Among seniors, opposition to ObamaCare hit 63% in last month’s Economist/YouGov Poll. But the number from that poll that should spook Democrats is this: 47% of seniors said they “strongly” oppose health-care reform, just 27% “strongly” support it. Seniors are the biggest consumers of health care, and their family members will probably take their concerns seriously. Seniors will likely cast about 20% of the votes next year. The trend behind these numbers is that voters are turning away from Democrats. As Darth Vader said to his son Luke at the end of the last Star Wars Movie: “nothing can stop that now”. Update: I am clearly not the only bemused by all the ridiculous hoopla and quaking. Update: First we have mythical magical liberal policies that will change the world to Nirvana. Then we got mythical jobs ‘created or saved’ not just claimed, but added into the unemployment figures. We are fed a mythical deficit reduction ten years from now. And to top it all off the AP thinks President Obama has the support of a mythical silent majority on health care! Man, there is some crazy mind blowing stuff in the DC water these days. I think DC should be changed to stand for “Delusional & Clueless“. Truth in advertising and all that, you know. [Note: for a short time I had the wrong total cost, so corrected that and fixed all the math based on it]