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To: combjelly who wrote (519645)10/9/2009 7:30:05 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1574512
 
Both are assumptions (which does not imply they aren't reality, your essentially asserting they are correct assumptions, that doesn't make them not assumptions)

Also both are questionable.

Bush's rhetoric was typically less empty than Obama's, but assuming the counterfactual that it was for the moment, "avoiding empty rhetoric" isn't a legitimate qualification for the prize.

As for Ahmadinejad, we have no way of knowing if he really won because of the extensive fraud in the elections.



To: combjelly who wrote (519645)10/9/2009 7:58:43 PM
From: TimF  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1574512
 
Obama's right

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"Let me be clear: I do not view it as a recognition of my own accomplishments."
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"To be honest, I do not feel that I deserve to be in the company of so many of the transformative figures who have been honored by this prize."

(as for the 2nd comment he doesn't deserve to be in the company of some because he hasn't done anything sufficiently important relevant to achieving peace, and he doesn't deserve to be listed in the company of others because he doesn't done anything sufficiently negative by the same criteria)

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This isn't a case like with Krugman's nobel, of not liking the person or agreeing with his opinions, but recognizing legitimate work in the understanding of international trade. Krugman was a legitimate contender for the prize.



To: combjelly who wrote (519645)10/10/2009 2:54:59 AM
From: Taro  Read Replies (1) | Respond to of 1574512
 
Empty rhetoric, which is what Bush mainly engaged in, is never a good idea.

Empty rhetoric, which is what Obama mainly is engaged in, is never a good idea.

Did I get something wrong here or what?

Taro

PS/ Empty rhetoric these days suffices in getting yourself a Nobel Price.