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To: Skeeter Bug who wrote (224319)10/10/2009 8:46:26 AM
From: Jim McMannisRead Replies (3) | Respond to of 306849
 
Democrats May Extend Tax Credit for Homes

nytimes.com

WASHINGTON — Democratic Congressional leaders are working with the White House to extend an expiring $8,000 tax credit for first-time home buyers, and aides said Wednesday that they were considering making it available to current homeowners who purchase a new residence.

Extending and possibly expanding the popular home-buyers credit, which is due to expire after November, is high among options for further stimulating the economy and creating jobs, Congressional aides said, though a White House official said it was only briefly mentioned on Wednesday in an Oval Office meeting between President Obama, Speaker Nancy Pelosi of California and Senator Harry Reid of Nevada, the Senate majority leader.

The Democratic leaders met with the president to discuss a broad range of options to combat persistent high unemployment, officials say. The existing credit for first-time home buyers will expire at the end of next month if not extended, and two other components of the economic safety net — unemployment compensation and health care benefits for those who have been out of work for long periods — will expire at the end of the year.

Besides the likelihood of extending those measures, which were part of the $787 billion stimulus law earlier this year, the president and Congress were also weighing additional steps, given projections that jobs will continue to be lost into the middle of next year despite signs of economic recovery, possibly driving the unemployment rate above 10 percent. But they insist that any package will not add up to a second stimulus package, a prospect that would invite Republicans’ attacks on the effectiveness of the first.

Keeping the home-buyers credit and broadening it has been a priority for real estate agents and the home builders lobbies, and for Mr. Reid, who faces a tough re-election race next year in a state that has been among the hardest hit by the housing crisis since mid-2007. In a statement after the White House meeting, Mr. Reid said the government should “continue efforts to strengthen the housing market by extending the home-buyer tax credit.”

By the time it is scheduled to expire, for home purchases that close before Dec. 1, the home-buyers credit will be responsible for nearly 400,000 sales of new and existing homes, out of total sales of 1.4 million, said Mark Zandi, chief economist at Moody’s Economy.com. That is roughly in line with estimates from the National Association of Realtors.

Mr. Zandi, who formerly advised Senator John McCain, Republican of Arizona, and is now consulted by Democrats in the administration and in Congress, has advocated extending the credit through next August and making it available to all home buyers.

Allowing the credit to expire this year would result in a decline in sales of homes that are not facing foreclosure just as sales of foreclosed homes are expected to pick up, Mr. Zandi said in an interview, “putting further downward pressure on house prices.”

“The economic recovery will not evolve into a self-sustaining economic expansion and risks unraveling back into recession until house prices stop falling,” he added.

But the tax break is not cheap. Congressional analysts put the cost in lost tax revenues at about $1 billion a month. Mr. Zandi said that expanding the availability of the credit to more home buyers through August would cost perhaps $30 billion. While some in the housing industry have proposed nearly doubling the credit to $15,000, Mr. Zandi said $8,000 “seems to have been a sufficiently powerful incentive.”

While Democrats in Congress and the White House emphasize that no decisions have been made about the home buyers credit or any other measures, two officials said that the cost of extending the credit could be covered by redirecting money in the two-year $787 billion stimulus package that was scheduled to be spent after this year.

The current credit is limited to buyers who earn up to $75,000 a year, or couples who make $150,000; in gradually smaller amounts the credit is available to individuals with income from $75,000 to $95,000 and to couples making from $150,000 to $170,000. While the housing industry supports lifting the income caps so that even wealthy home buyers are eligible, White House and Congressional aides say that is not under discussion.

On Thursday, the House is expected to pass legislation from Representative Charles B. Rangel, Democrat of New York and chairman of the House Ways and Means Committee, to extend the credit through 2010 for people who have been out of the country this year in the military or intelligence or foreign services.

Mr. Reid is a co-sponsor of a bipartisan Senate bill that would extend the existing credit for six months, through May.

The home-buyers credit has come in for criticism similar to that lodged against another popular stimulus program, the “Cash for Clunkers” subsidy that went to people who traded in vehicles for more fuel-efficient models — that the credit persuades people to act faster on purchases, depressing activity later.

Industry officials counter that expediting home sales helps to stabilize home values now, which is essential for sustaining economic growth. And unlike car sales, home sales have a multiplier effect that spurs job-creating growth throughout the economy. Lawrence Yun, chief economist for the National Association of Realtors, said each house sale on average yielded $63,000 spent on goods and services, like moving vans and furniture.



To: Skeeter Bug who wrote (224319)10/10/2009 12:41:01 PM
From: LTK007Respond to of 306849
 
True,and fact is NO one would be President if they were honest, this the farce we have become.We are an EMPIRE of Illusion and our tentacles of manipulation reach right into the Nobel Peace Prize Commiteee now.

i am reading a superb book called The Empire of Illusion, by Chris Hedges, he writes arguing why he believes we are now citizens of but a Fantasy Land, that the U.S. has become the most self-deceived populace in the overall EVER, they are now but puppets trained by "Madison Avenue", where Madison Avenue becomes a symbolic phrase for how the public is dealt with by most all via ruse techniques, and lying to them has become THE RULE, the new ethic, that we are thus becoming now a society where the psychopathic are rewarded and the honest are marginalized and mocked by the power forces.
We have become so shallow that to be celebrity now the new totem of the people, that which has now meaning---be celebrity, noethics required to become one.
Watch the evil Tom Delay, try to wiggle of the the hook,by performing on "Dance off the Stars".
Hey this stuff works with America Public,that is how pathetic we have become---gees i wonder how many Obama Bobble-Heads have sold? Plenty,i am sure, plastic toys for a shallow plastic world.
So one can understand that i don't give a damn i am NOT liked.


A nation that has Springer fanatics/Oprah fanatics/Limbaugh fanatics/Howard Stern fanatics/CRW fanatics,Secular Humanist Atheist fanatics ,and, that increasingly, on the side,a society that increasingly love Extreme Sports, like the ghouls that went to the Roman Coloseum to be entertained.
No honest man could be elected President, because the public is SO EASY to LIE TO.
Jefferson said Democracy is ONLY as good as the self-informed knowledge of free thinking public, based on that, we are a terminally diseased CANCEROUS "democracy".
Gees, how many people think they are well informed because they are devoted to the Drudge Website or the pages of NYT? i know the answer would be horror movie scary----that the total be so alarming in amount,i am fully aware i live in a SickJoke, so to to survive i just LOL! derisively and go to "Baila Me!" mode( a Gipsy Kings song)

The declining Western World, needed desperately a CELEBRITY chosen for the Nobel Peace Award, and as such they used a mass of deceptive verbiage to justify that the Commander and Chief of the most Militarist nation in the world,and pursuer of at least two wars, getting the Nobel Peace Prize.
Sick Joke! i Laugh Derisively. The Maxer!
i add my statement i made about myself, just so that not any "i like BushII" Bush Baby Idiots, think i am not OPPOSED to them.
The Maxer
"A Conundrum:i am so Far Left, i might be Right"Max90








To: Skeeter Bug who wrote (224319)10/11/2009 12:24:57 AM
From: John ChenRespond to of 306849
 
"if obama were honest, he wouldn't be president"

Just like that, you defined the winner and loser in USA.

AWESOME.