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To: carranza2 who wrote (395622)	10/10/2009 2:07:40 PM
From: Real Man	Respond to of 436258

Yep, little they can do?

To: carranza2 who wrote (395622)	10/12/2009 4:28:25 PM
From: Real Man	1 Recommendation Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 436258

Here is the truth about derivatives. This is US report. The notional values grew as I expected due to printing (maybe not as fast as I expected -g-), while the real values contracted. The market is more controlled than ever, with Goldman being a major, major participant, not surprisingly. What is surprising is how much levered Goldman is. They are about up there with BAC, a bit behind JPM, but the ratio to Risk Based capital is much, much higher at Goldman than at JPM, BAC, C, or WFC. They must be very sure of themselves. See pages 13, and then 22-24 <g> occ.treas.gov