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To: greenspirit who wrote (122767)	10/13/2009 8:34:56 AM
From: Paul Kern	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541893

Are you a paid up member of the JBS, or, are you freeloading socialist on the dark side?

To: greenspirit who wrote (122767)	10/13/2009 10:11:06 AM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541893

Sorry, Sparky. Brits leave out the Arctic. Guess where it has been heating up the most? Big whoops. According to the dataset of the UK Met Office Hadley Centre (see figure), 1998 was the warmest year by far since records began, but since 2003 there has been slight cooling. But according to the dataset of NASA’s Goddard Institute for Space Studies (see figure), 2005 was the warmest since records began, with 1998 and 2007 tied in second place. The difference between the two datasets goes to the core of why the planet has in fact been warming since 1998: The main reason is that there are no permanent weather stations in the Arctic Ocean, the place on Earth that has been warming fastest. The Hadley record simply excludes this area, whereas the NASA version assumes its surface temperature is the same as that of the nearest land-based stations climateprogress.org Second warmest August on record and warmest June-July-August for the oceans — despite deepest solar minimum in nearly a century September 16, 2009 NOAA reported the blockbuster news today: The world’s ocean surface temperature was the warmest for any August on record, and the warmest on record averaged for any June-August (Northern Hemisphere summer/Southern Hemisphere winter) season according to NOAA’s National Climatic Data Center in Asheville, N.C. The preliminary analysis is based on records dating back to 1880. Message 25965358

To: greenspirit who wrote (122767)	10/13/2009 1:10:16 PM
From: Cogito	Read Replies (2) \| Respond to of 541893

GS - The thing about real science is that it always strives to reach the truth. I think that if global warming turns out to have been caused by solar charged particles, and there is no impending disaster, most scientists will just breathe a sigh of relief and move on. That's pretty much what I would do. That said, I must observe that the article you posted is about one scientist and what he thinks he is observing. He may or may not be correct. Your characterization of the article as a "mea culpa" and a sign that "the evidence is pretty overwhelming" is pretty far over the top. - Allen

To: greenspirit who wrote (122767)	10/13/2009 3:04:23 PM
From: Sam	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541893

This article is a real scream. Yeah, it's a scream all right, such a scream that it is idiotic. In his defense (sort of), it is an idiocy that others who should know better have also fallen for. climateprogress.org

To: greenspirit who wrote (122767)	10/18/2009 6:50:56 PM
From: Wharf Rat	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 541893

What happened to global warming? This... Graph of the Day: Global Temperature Anomalies, September 2009 Published by Jim on Saturday, October 17, 2009 at 8:04 AM ncdc.noaa.gov The combined global land and ocean surface temperatures for September 2009 ranked as the second warmest September on record since records began in 1880. The combined global land and ocean temperature anomaly was 0.62°C (1.12°F), falling only 0.04°C (0.07°F) short of tying the record set in 2005. Similar to the combined global land and ocean temperatures, the worldwide land surface temperature was the second warmest September on record, behind 2005, with a temperature anomaly of 0.97°C (1.75°F) above the 20th Century average. During the month of September, warmer-than-average temperatures were present across Canada, Europe, the northern and western contiguous U.S., eastern Brazil, and most of Asia and Australia. The warmest anomalies occurred in Canada, the northern and western contiguous U.S., western Russia, and parts of Australia, where temperature anomalies ranged from 3-5°C (5-9°F) above the 1961-1990 average. Separately, the Northern Hemisphere and the Southern Hemisphere experienced above average temperatures for the combined land and ocean areas, resulting in the second warmest September on record, behind 2005 and 1997, respectively. The Southern Hemisphere September temperature tied with 2003. For the contiguous U.S., the national average during September 2009 was 19.1°C (66.4°F), 0.6°C (1°F) above the 20th Century average and the 32nd warmest on record. The West region and the states that constitute the region had their warmest September on record. Please see the United States September 2009 National Overview for additional information. … desdemonadespair.blogspot.com