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Politics : Should God be replaced? -- Ignore unavailable to you. Want to Upgrade?

To: LLCF who wrote (27643)	10/13/2009 9:19:30 PM
From: one_less	1 Recommendation Respond to of 28931

<<Revelation may be defined as the communication of some truth by God to a rational creature through means which are beyond the ordinary course of nature. >> Communing with God are we? The ordinary course of nature wrt truth involves animal nature alone, which is eat, grow, survive, and reproduce. Truth in this existence is generally considered to be what lies beneath layers of complexity, paradox, irony, mystery, and a general chaotic circumstance. When some truth is exposed, we consider it having been revealed. In that sense, a scientist who discovers some underlying truth of existence can be said to be revealing God's truth, or having it revealed to him... same thing. Whether it is a moral principle, a law of physics, biological science, criminal activity, or transcendence to higher consciousness, the fact remains that any thing discovered as a greater truth than our obvious animal nature is a matter of revelation. Human beings are driven to seek beyond animal nature and to reveal or have revealed to them an understanding beyond survival of flesh and satisfaction of carnal appetites.

To: LLCF who wrote (27643)	10/14/2009 4:03:14 AM
From: Greg or e	Read Replies (1) \| Respond to of 28931

<The direct revelation that Christians acknowledge is the bible> "Yea, looked there... it seems god as person isn't described in there." Virtually every reference to God in the Bible refers to "Him" using personal terms or descriptions. Can you read? From Genesis 1: to Revelation 22: God is called "He" and described in personal terms doing things that only personal entities are capable of doing. <I gave you a clear definition of "Person" months ago.> "Yes, and it fits what I described as god (previous post) fine." I don't know what you are talking about. I don't think you do either. It's irrational to suggest that God's primary essence is both personal and impersonal. "You are the one that seems to think "personal" is really important as far as God goes... so one normally would explain himself if one is to assert something." I have explained myself clearly and repeatedly. Why is this important? "without faith it is impossible to please Him, for he who comes to God must believe that He is and that He is a rewarder of those who seek Him." Heb 11:6 "I don't care one way of the other." That's why you are not a Christian. "Again, since you can't describe "personal" or "impersonal" there is little to discuss." That's a lie and you know it! You are just playing the stunned one. "<<Revelation may be defined as the communication of some truth by God to a rational creature through means which are beyond the ordinary course of nature. >>(From the website you linked)" "Hmmm, beyone speech for sure... so your assertion about no "force" being used seems empty. Seems to me that as long as there is information exchanged it would fit the Catholic definition of "personal", but you probably know better... we may never know." You are being incoherent. I never asserted any such thing. Impersonal forces are incapable of initiating language. That's also why I asked you how an impersonal force could intelligently design anything. You never answered. It's fairly obvious why: you don't know what you are talking about.